Hi low silver?

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:50 am

Had a £45 top off this last week. What is it with funny amounts at the moment!!

thepro · Post by **thepro** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:51 am

i was just stating a fact what he had said, seems a bit strange to me, ive been playing machines 8 years and i know wat you go out with, and being a member a long time on here doesnt neccesarally mean you are a genuine player

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:04 am

fair enough .but i reckon jeff is a genuine kind of guy.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:08 am

i had a cash or bust do a 45 top on me last week, to be fair it wasnt redding ,.... it was somewhat forced with a no lose and extra life situation, but it only cost 20 so i wasnt fussed weather it freak triggered reds after or not

couldn't believe my eyes though ,,,,,,,,,,,, so obviously forced and not ready for a top

would normally play properly and wait till redding but off 20quid couldn't care less

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:03 pm

Yeah but you don't play these new reds for redding, not the same profile at all. They can do 3/4 red boards when fiver ready. Play for blocks and high value features instead to test.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:07 pm

sorry matt m8 but i can't agree, blocks and barriers through the high wins have never been a good sign in my book, we must all have taken on one of these from the wrong point at some time just because its naturally gambling through the blocks to say 10/15 quid but because its not propper redding its stil cost over a ton to gamble to jp often with a flat 35 returned and a major loss,

the fact is so many people slag off the new ones such as coppa load, indy, etc because their playing these from the wrong point in their cycle. lots of people think a red is redding if it shows 7 or 8 out of 12 but thats simply bollocks. in fact you often see 7/8 reds on a board just off remaining credits after a 105 top proving its bollocks

plus with the inclusion of megaspins and respin they often fuck up and offer say for instance 25quid and 9plus reds ,,,,,,,, but this is false too

the fact is the profile's haven't changed one bit, a red isnt propper redding unless its 9 reds or more and the nudges are only offering 5quid or less, with no group of same colourd men/faces/hiddens in the close vicinity .

play any of the newer ones from the right point in their cycle and their as good as any old reds you care to mention.

ob · Post by ob » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:00 am

trayhop123 wrote:sorry matt m8 but i can't agree, blocks and barriers through the high wins have never been a good sign in my book, we must all have taken on one of these from the wrong point at some time just because its naturally gambling through the blocks to say 10/15 quid but because its not propper redding its stil cost over a ton to gamble to jp often with a flat 35 returned and a major loss,

the fact is so many people slag off the new ones such as coppa load, indy, etc because their playing these from the wrong point in their cycle. lots of people think a red is redding if it shows 7 or 8 out of 12 but thats simply bollocks. in fact you often see 7/8 reds on a board just off remaining credits after a 105 top proving its bollocks

plus with the inclusion of megaspins and respin they often fuck up and offer say for instance 25quid and 9plus reds ,,,,,,,, but this is false too

the fact is the profile's haven't changed one bit, a red isnt propper redding unless its 9 reds or more and the nudges are only offering 5quid or less, with no group of same colourd men/faces/hiddens in the close vicinity .

play any of the newer ones from the right point in their cycle and their as good as any old reds you care to mention.

Got to dissagree hugely with you here, they seem to red up pretty randomly whether there or not, had cash or bust do all bar 1 on 1 nudge many times when its MILES away from ready. Today indiana jones all bar 2 on 1 nudge first board, a few more blag reds, £90 for £70 top then its stone, end up losing trying to play on...

What has changed is the amount of reds is RANDOM rather than actually telling you anything. They block £5-7 and £10-15 pretty randomly, ie. you can have 10 lower 11 lower 12 from £5 - £6 ( with life ), and next board be a £105 top ( HAD THIS VERY THING!!! ). Basically playing them is a pure gamble, where you don't know where you are at.

Of course if you play them at the right point of course you are going to do as well as old reds( believe me I aint saying they cant streak well as I've had it plenty), but the point is THAT YOU CANT TELL!

Surely you know trayhop that I'm not talking crap, I'm no mug.

PS: these new reds are outnumbered 50/1 by new bfms so its really somewhat of a mute point anyhow.

JG · Post by JG » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:09 am

As said before by myself and Kesh, sorry BFK, Mummies can lie through their teeth. OK, not the latest of Reds but ARB1 /= home and dry.

red22 · Post by **red22** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:34 am

completely agree with OB, new style reds are worse liars than Michael jackson, i still play them but the amount of times i have had all red but 1 with only 1 nudge and no win available is plenty.

this happens regular to me with sometimes i agree a tidy profit, but also the occasional sting and sometimes a hefty one. if i went on a lucky devil for example and it lit up like Michael jacksons face with a 3 year old on his knee then i would know its there and quick as would probably Michael Jackson be. new reds dont play like this at all.

Sorry jacko i only used you in this reply because your shit Earth song is on the readio as i type this.

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:06 pm

quote=red22 "readio" ,is that like a radio with subtitles?

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:14 pm

i have nothing but respect for you ob m8 , your a long term member who does know what he's talking about.

however i think we will have to agree to disagree m8.

i know at what point im comfortable forcing one , and because of it i hardley ever have one of the horror stories that so many other members do.

do you at least agree that 7/8 reds out of 12 is horseshit?

like i said straight after a 105 top , off remaining credits you sometimes see a 7/8 board ,,,,,,,, never ever ever a 9 out of 12

of course im more comfy going for one thats through the blocks and showing 7/8 reds but you can stil do a ton from this point without any joy

9 is propper redding and you shouldnt lose from this point in your force
there is the odd exceptional bastard though , that of course takes the piss with flat 35s and recycles .

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:53 pm

Just not true though, i mean last week i saw a bloke go on a COB after i'd spanked a £105er off it get an ARB2 board Copper Loada This reds up for fun at times too. Sometimes it will genuinely mean its there, other times its a piss take. I think the last proper old profile reds were Fun Nudgin/Piggy Bank etc. They started to dirty up with snakez/mummy, now they are full on filth with the new ones.

All because of players heaven. Do you think showing red features means it will pay? Yes? Right, in that case we'll change it.

Plus i agree with ob here - a real rarity :P

pickareel · Post by **pickareel** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:04 am

sorry lee but i disagree the profiles have changed,the new ones simply do not throw in any wins above a fiver maybe 6 if very lucky which make tops alot harder 2 achieve,much more safe wins because u have 2 try n gamble every board out unless u fancy killing all boards off and play for big wins on super bonus but trust me that can be very very pricy

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:05 am

snakes dont blag reds and i would also say mummys are quite readable now.

pickareel · Post by **pickareel** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:13 am

wait till u play these new snakes u will do ur bankroll in them