F.A.O Bellfuit/Gamestec and anybody else who cares to read!

[fmlad2002]

local joe's fingers have been burned toooooo many times by 12-15 pound boards for a 3quid blocked board, 2moves then dead,
something has to give
the manu,s arnt that stupid surely there has to be a massive overhaul of the whole industry soon, or else soon there wont be one to save

Spot on post - quesiton is - why are we here in the first place !.. What is the point of of £10 quid in - one board, two moves dead max win £2.. Then another 10 quid in - 1 board and 2 moves, 3 quid dead.

What is going on with the programming ?

Another question - Percentage.... the machine has to typically pay out say 80%, however by making the % based on say £1million quid one could argue, it could be set to rip off the casual punter - by the time the machine has reached its point to pay out - it'll probably have been replaced. The Manuf' have earnt from sales the landlord has huge cash box takings. The punter, ripped.

[jeffvickers]

Dual Stake 25p/50p £25/£50 could be an idea, expect Video AWP to be vastly expanded too.

[JG]

It shouldn't work like that and usually doesn't. The only exception being rip off chuzzy kits that boast 98% as if it's an actual target percentage.
Well it is! It'll pay up to 98%/week if £100,000 is played through the machine/week. However in reality it's more like £2000 will get played through and it'll pay at 82% with the LED boasting 98%.
Oh yes, this is on 'high' setting.
Oh yes, this is if it's software with no kindly Easter Eggs for Mr. Chuzzy!

ME Electronics. You could buy 'Plus glass' extra re-inforced inch thick glass for their kits. Lol, why would they need that? It's not like anyone would get disgruntled and try and smash a machine that they were £500 into which was full, claiming 98% and still sucking money.

Yes pipe down on the old Bixo cube comments, these were mostly gash on most programs.

Where is Chuzzy now? Well still sitting in a few Riva (or is that Arriva? Thought they were a travel company?) owned AGCs and a few independents. Operators love the chuzzy, yeah that's the ones too stupid to check the books and see what is happenning. You have a 86% Bar-X next to a Chuzzy that is also, ahem, 86% but is currently showing a 72% return. The Bar-X gets 50% more play, but the box takings are 50% less than the chuzzy.

Yes I too can make a kit. I will call it the JGzzy-X. It pays at 0% until £100,000 goes through it then it'll start trying to hit its target of 98%. Ok we're being silly now.

Most AWPs keep pretty close to %, most of the time.

[ob]

It shouldn't work like that and usually doesn't. The only exception being rip off chuzzy kits that boast 98% as if it's an actual target percentage.
Well it is! It'll pay up to 98%/week if £100,000 is played through the machine/week. However in reality it's more like £2000 will get played through and it'll pay at 82% with the LED boasting 98%.
Oh yes, this is on 'high' setting.
Oh yes, this is if it's software with no kindly Easter Eggs for Mr. Chuzzy!

ME Electronics. You could buy 'Plus glass' extra re-inforced inch thick glass for their kits. Lol, why would they need that? It's not like anyone would get disgruntled and try and smash a machine that they were £500 into which was full, claiming 98% and still sucking money.

Yes pipe down on the old Bixo cube comments, these were mostly gash on most programs.

Where is Chuzzy now? Well still sitting in a few Riva (or is that Arriva? Thought they were a travel company?) owned AGCs and a few independents. Operators love the chuzzy, yeah that's the ones too stupid to check the books and see what is happenning. You have a 86% Bar-X next to a Chuzzy that is also, ahem, 86% but is currently showing a 72% return. The Bar-X gets 50% more play, but the box takings are 50% less than the chuzzy.

Yes I too can make a kit. I will call it the JGzzy-X. It pays at 0% until £100,000 goes through it then it'll start trying to hit its target of 98%. Ok we're being silly now.

Most AWPs keep pretty close to %, most of the time.

Never understood the appeal of those bar x machines, they are SOOOOOOOOOO dull!!! Alot of them go £50+ without a win etc. too!

[harry2]

Thoughy Chuzzy was from the Principality.

[aaamusements.co.uk]

Thoughy Chuzzy was from the Principality.

I heard that he looks a lot like God.


No, seriously!

[harry2]

Maybe a Druid.

[Drpepper]

Also i'd like to pass a message onto whichever compnay makes grabber machines, After a few goes, i managed to actually get a prize and grab it and lift it up to over the hole, as it was being brought to over the hole, the claw PICKED UP SPEED and bounced off the back, at which point the claw let go at the perfect time to throw the prize back into the rest of the teddys.

Also how can anyone actually think that anything at 50p play will provide any entertainment for customers. 30p is the breaking point IMO.

[aaamusements.co.uk]

Also i'd like to pass a message onto whichever compnay makes grabber machines, After a few goes, i managed to actually get a prize and grab it and lift it up to over the hole, as it was being brought to over the hole, the claw PICKED UP SPEED and bounced off the back, at which point the claw let go at the perfect time to throw the prize back into the rest of the teddys.

That's down to the little Cromptons box inside that makes it give out prizes to a percentage, regardless of skill...

[HornyNick]

^^^^^^
Those damn things run on percentages as well?

[MoterWayServiceMan]

no there RANDOM lol

[mr lugsy]

actually there is a random element in some crane processors

[aaamusements.co.uk]

actually there is a random element in some crane processors

Some, but many go by "win every 10 credits" or whatever.

[mr lugsy]

most of the boxes we use now you can set to pay out within a range of ,for example every pound to once every 16 pound on average(not exact figures mind),this is nothing like the bullshit the bbc broadcasted on "the real hustle" .these things could easily take double what they are set for ,then pay twice.
the most modern cranes ,e.g the elaut EX1 even have self diagnostics,and will even alarm if they stray out of range of the set target too far,yes, even if they have'nt paid enough toys out. the max this grabber can be set to take (on average) between payouts is 16 pounds, we put gift shop quality gear in most of grabbers and just use them as glorified vending machines.
they take shed loads more money if set correctly,i make sure the toy can be lifted everytime if grabbed properly, of course it will drop them ,but it should'nt be blatant.

when the claw grabs a toy the power to the grab will start at full or whatever it is set to,as the string is wound back the power is slowly cut to the grab to make it appear that the prize has "slipped out",if set incorrectly you can blatantly see the claws open :x

[betchrider]

most of the boxes we use now you can set to pay out within a range of ,for example every pound to once every 16 pound on average(not exact figures mind),this is nothing like the bullshit the bbc broadcasted on "the real hustle" .these things could easily take double what they are set for ,then pay twice.
the most modern cranes ,e.g the elaut EX1 even have self diagnostics,and will even alarm if they stray out of range of the set target too far,yes, even if they have'nt paid enough toys out. the max this grabber can be set to take (on average) between payouts is 16 pounds, we put gift shop quality gear in most of grabbers and just use them as glorified vending machines.
they take shed loads more money if set correctly,i make sure the toy can be lifted everytime if grabbed properly, of course it will drop them ,but it should'nt be blatant.
Is that fair?
when the claw grabs a toy the power to the grab will start at full or whatever it is set to,as the string is wound back the power is slowly cut to the grab to make it appear that the prize has "slipped out",if set incorrectly you can blatantly see the claws open :x