quiz emptiers

pokerkingqueen · Post by **pokerkingqueen** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:49 pm

Just out of interest, have there been many quiz machine empties?

I`m not talking skill based, just glitches i.e. kind of like a freewin on a fruit machine or game manipulation as I`ve been told of a trick to obtain free credits on a certain platform - which requires no tools, skullduggery or magix

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Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:07 pm

Top Of The Pops on gamesnet was an empty, i did find one worker, got about £50 in front in 3 hrs and left because i had other plans, returned 3 days later when i had more time and found it no longer worked.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:09 pm

Extreme Eddie wrote:Top Of The Pops on gamesnet was an empty, i did find one worker, got about £50 in front in 3 hrs and left because i had other plans, returned 3 days later when i had more time and found it no longer worked.

That's certainly the only one I can think of in recent times, although I'm not very good at finding these things out. Most GamesNets were updated pretty quickly although one or two hung around a bit longer.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:47 am

it box football quiz got on richard and judy.. some bloke and his missus made about 10k before they got caught.. got taken to court no fine or anything as no-one could prove anything was wrong...

cool · Post by **cool** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:38 am

they have been talked about ad nauseum on this site.Firstly I doubt the guys wife did anything except get the drinks or drive the car as it is generally the case that women are useless (or rather got better things to do)at swp's.There has been 1 lady mentionned from the midlands and also 1 lady who has emmigrated to the states thats all. Secondly the person who went on tour did not use any dodgy tactics to win the jackpots, he did it perfectly legitimately.Its odd the opinions of the non swp players, that its perfectly permissible to go on a pub crawl getting pissed yet there is something sinister about somebody going from pub to pub playing and winning on quiz machines.The person who appeared in the Sun got on my nerves as he was doing what most of us have been doing for years and just going on an ego trip, what he did later was extremely annoying but let someone else elaborate..... Publicising an unscrupulous publican however is another matter....

QuizMaster · Post by **QuizMaster** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:35 am

I don't think he ended up in court, although his self publicizing ways were criminal. Norman Nomates trying to get his 15 minutes to be honest.

ROSSKEEN · Post by **ROSSKEEN** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:41 am

Can I assume we're referring to mr "Look I've got £500 in the bank but the landlord is refusing to pay out"?

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:05 am

Hehe; just to confirm Mr Brewis went nowhere near a court - that was because there was nothing underhand or dodgy about his winnings on Big Match - they simply made the game too easily repeat-winnable by super-dedicated players, that's all. (I readily accept that his approach to publicity was not one that would be shared by many SWP players.) GamesTec were a bit difficult when he ran up £560 of winnings at one site just after Big Match World Cup had been withdrawn from most venues, but they paid up eventually as they accepted that he had done nothing wrong and was just bl**dy good at the game by dint of huge amounts of play.

So to use the OP's categorisation, which seems as good as any, this was a "skill-based" empty rather than a "glitch-based" empty. I'm prepared to be corrected by the better players than I on this forum, but I'd think (a) emptiers are reasonably rare; and (b) the vast majority would be "skill-based".

cool · Post by **cool** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:55 am

a & b agree with. Even cliches in the programmes could be skilled based as you had to be skilled at finding them- they were not obvious to even the well played player.

Nil Satis · Post by **Nil Satis** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:52 pm

Back to the original question, do those of you who straddle the border so to speak between the worlds of the quiz machine and the fruit machine actually know of genuine tricks that could enable you to consistently win on any instance of a particular fruit machine, or any instance of a particular fruit machine in a certain recognisable mood, recognisable being the key word here.

Anything mechanical (keys, levering doors off...) doesn't count obviously, neither does any inbuilt feature that isn't advertised but that any regular player would easily find, such as the very basic one of not holding after nudging in two symbols out of three - I'm old enough to remember when that trick was first introduced, whereas I believe the modern machines even TELL you when to do things like that.

I admit I almost a complete amateur in this area and am obviously not asking anyone to divulge any actual tricks but my suspicion is that 99% of these stories are just that - stories - in the same way that the racing papers are full of people asking you to pay for supposedly "foolproof" betting systems.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:13 pm

a foolproof system is to be better than anyone else at something. practice is clearly essential. i understand that there is a lot of skill in AWP, discipline and location are also more important to them than to us, and you need cojones. the spadework is probably more rigorous for SWP. if you are sat on a piano stool, it doesn't mean you can play chopin's études.

kidgloves · Post by **kidgloves** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:25 pm

Istenem wrote: if you are sat on a piano stool, it doesn't mean you can play chopin's études.

and if you can play Chopin's etudes, it doesn't mean you can win on SWP's, unless you are playing Splat the Mice.

roberto la vigna · Post by **roberto la vigna** » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:45 pm

Istenem wrote:if you are sat on a piano stool, it doesn't mean you can play chopin's études.

Especially if your hi-fi is over the other side of the room.

JG · Post by JG » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:39 am

Nil Satis, I can confirm that genuine methods have existed which enable you to empty fruit machines by playing in an honest fashion. An emptier by its very nature will allow you to empty the machine regardless of the mood of the machine. You ask about 'genuine tricks', well that is basically the essence of honest fruit machine playing - genuine tricks. Without 'tricks' we have no advantage over the next man and that is where the money is made unless you are lucky enough to have an 'emptier' in which case you may be pushing the value so far behind, that some poor average Joe will get murdered OR the machine will be forced permanently over %

Add to the mix a blend of tells, timing, skill and good old fashioned luck and hopefully you will finish up with a pocketful of pound coins

Nil Satis · Post by **Nil Satis** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:07 pm

Thanks, that sounds more plausible than some of the stuff I read/hear.

I do have to bear in mind also that to a layman (punter, landlord, barstaff etc) watching someone good on a quiz machine can look like cheating, and we've all been accused of things like that over the years.

The hardest thing to explain is when someone starts watching you over your shoulder just at the point when a game pays out and they assume it happens like that every time - they haven't seen the five previous games where the Jiggy Bank hasn't been worth winning so you've binned it or the three times you've gambled and lost on a £20 Millionaire question that you didn't know. In such cases you recognise that a game is worth persevering with and keep going but it's uncanny the number of times an observer only arrives just at the point of 'victory'!