smoking ban

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:41 am

Been whizzin nil up at 3.49?

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Sun May 25, 2008 10:50 am

just to join in with the general spirit of pedantry:
NS posted at 04.49 because we are in BST, you spastic jerk.
on the less/fewer point, it is really quite simple and any educated person should not have a problem with it, there are some much more complicated linguistic points. like how to spell 'definately'.
and land of our fathers, that is a bastard to try and sing.

rogerthymes · Post by **rogerthymes** » Sun May 25, 2008 11:14 am

You wouldn't think I was the proud owner of an A at A level english

ops:
Suppose that's what computers have done to me and me spelling. Mind you, I've always been a big Slade fan if you no wot i meen

Nil Satis · Post by **Nil Satis** » Sun May 25, 2008 5:04 pm

betchrider wrote:Been whizzin nil up at 3.49?

No - I'm in a different timezone, thousands of miles from the nearest quiz machine, which I guess makes it even sadder that I'm checking up on you guys...

ops:

Properpro · Post by **Properpro** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:43 am

(At the risk of bringing this thread back to its original starting point) I played a machine yesterday that was surrounded by cigarette butts stubbed out on the floor. I presume this was a result of a 'lock-in', but it did remind me of the 'old days'. I don't smoke, but the incident made me smile.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:47 am

A few pubs near me do late tastings, soon as its closing time the curtains shut and out come the ash-trays, as a non smoker not what i want to see.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:59 am

Properpro wrote:(At the risk of bringing this thread back to its original starting point) I played a machine yesterday that was surrounded by cigarette butts stubbed out on the floor. I presume this was a result of a 'lock-in', but it did remind me of the 'old days'. I don't smoke, but the incident made me smile.

On a point of legal pedantry, I can't see how allowing smoking during a "lock-in" is any less illegal than allowing it during opening hours - from what I recall, the law prohibits smoking in any place where people are employed during work - which would include a pub, whether during a "lock-in" or otherwise (I presume there's a let-out for the living quarters of the publican). Moral: they should have swept those butts well away before re-opening...

Properpro · Post by **Properpro** » Mon May 26, 2008 11:00 am

grecian wrote:On a point of legal pedantry, I can't see how allowing smoking during a "lock-in" is any less illegal than allowing it during opening hours - from what I recall, the law prohibits smoking in any place where people are employed during work - which would include a pub, whether during a "lock-in" or otherwise (I presume there's a let-out for the living quarters of the publican). Moral: they should have swept those butts well away before re-opening...

Absolutely. Should I 'squeal'?

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:12 pm

Istenem wrote:just to join in with the general spirit of pedantry:
NS posted at 04.49 because we are in BST, you spastic jerk.
on the less/fewer point, it is really quite simple and any educated person should not have a problem with it, there are some much more complicated linguistic points. like how to spell 'definately'.
and land of our fathers, that is a bastard to try and sing.

Any need for name calling was merely havin a laugh cos of the time he posted. I suppose its great being as wonderful as you. Oh and is that John Redwood the homo on your avatar?

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:44 pm

it was meant to be lighthearted. it is difficult to judge tone in this forum, maybe i should have put a smiley there to make it more obvious. apologies if i caused any offence, none was intended.
yes, for the time being i'm masquerading as john redwood.

roberto la vigna · Post by **roberto la vigna** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:49 pm

Istenem wrote:and land of our fathers, that is a bastard to try and sing.

try to sing

fotherz · Post by **fotherz** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:55 pm

Istenem wrote:john redwood

Fellow of All Souls

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:39 pm

Surely lockins are illegal unless the landlord is philanthropic enough to give all the drinks away gratis?

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:06 pm

Thought you can pay in advance for your drinks,although not sure

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Mon May 26, 2008 11:54 pm

trust, open till, casual tipping. meh.

you wouldn't want the riffraff but, when i worked the bar at my men's club, it was a given that lock-ins were part of the membership fee. if pub = public house and the publican is the de facto owner of that house, i don't see any problem with smoking at his invitation. i imagine a good lawyer could argue this through the baby courts too. all hypocrisy aside, could any SWP player begrudge a cretin's losing credit if he fancied a fag inside a pub? less people are going to pubs now.

what did upset and hearten me in similar measure was being the only person in the best* pub in paddington at 17.30 today. i am a miserable sod, the barmaid knows my name but i'm not interested in hers. although i feel that it was symbolic of the age: being alone in there, a really nice boozer in a decent area, empty on a bank holiday. luckily the owner of this pub is very well-off and treats that building as his toy. others are not in this position of luxury and we will be losing pubs from the streetscape because, for most landlords, it is their job.

the first to go will be the nicer semi-independent boozers and we'll be left with 'spoonses full of students, OAPs and dropouts. at least the students will fill up our machines with daddy's money.

* by an ucking mile