can someone give me an example..../method...on how it is supposed to be done...
and the meaning of 'forcing'.
thank you
empiter..
empiter..
what is an empiter?
can someone give me an example..../method...on how it is supposed to be done...
and the meaning of 'forcing'.
thank you
can someone give me an example..../method...on how it is supposed to be done...
and the meaning of 'forcing'.
thank you
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Re: empiter..
Spelling it wrong once is one thing, but twice ....banditmad wrote:what is an empiter?
An Empiter is a non-existent word.
An Emptier is a means of removing all the money from a fruit machine hopper by manipulating features or gameplay, or by exploiting a 'bug' of some sort.
This machine may at times offer a choice where the player has every chance of bankruptcy
By paying knowledgeble people a lot of money!
What you must understand is that emptiers do not exist for every machine. Many have manipulations that get the value out of the machine quicker, but only a very few have a full blown empty.
And even for those, each one is unique and has a different method to get the money. A method that emptys one machine, will not work on another. (except for clones of course). Therefore, this makes your previous question (and how do i do this?) unanswerable.
Hope that helped.
What you must understand is that emptiers do not exist for every machine. Many have manipulations that get the value out of the machine quicker, but only a very few have a full blown empty.
And even for those, each one is unique and has a different method to get the money. A method that emptys one machine, will not work on another. (except for clones of course). Therefore, this makes your previous question (and how do i do this?) unanswerable.
Hope that helped.
streaky bacon?
welll we gotta start somewhere!
i was probably on here before you, years ago when this bloody thing started!, when 'party time' and some guy called Andy, sold fruit machines to every1....
so....what your saying is...
i.e ...an emptier for hellraiser (if there is one) will work for ''all fired up''? is that what your saying?
i was probably on here before you, years ago when this bloody thing started!, when 'party time' and some guy called Andy, sold fruit machines to every1....
so....what your saying is...
i.e ...an emptier for hellraiser (if there is one) will work for ''all fired up''? is that what your saying?
90% of the time yes. However if a manufacturer knows about a particular method then they may chip it in their newer releases but not bother chipping the older models that have in. To give an actual example, the extreme setups are being chipped out on the newer machines, but old ones (round the bend, doctors and nurses etc) still work and will continue to do so until the machine is removed.banditmad wrote:welll we gotta start somewhere!
i was probably on here before you, years ago when this bloody thing started!, when 'party time' and some guy called Andy, sold fruit machines to every1....
so....what your saying is...
i.e ...an emptier for hellraiser (if there is one) will work for ''all fired up''? is that what your saying?
streaky bacon?
An emptier (also known as umptier) is a method by which you can
i) ALWAYS AT ANY STAGE WIN MONEY FROM A MACHINE AS PLAY TENDS TO INFINITY REGARDLESS OF PLAY PRIOR TO YOUR PLAY.
Forcing is
i) GOING ALL OUT TAKING NOTHING UNTIL JACKPOT/TOP FEATURE IS AWARDED.
Sponsered by Jon Morris of the UKFMP>>>
Please remember do not discuss emptiers, methods or clever tricks on the forums. If you had a system to make a good income, why would you share it with anyone else? PMs only please. Also hinting about good methods to make quick £35s is really annoying, please, if you know it, just please don't flap it about.
Dec 2006: Still here? I stopped running the board years ago so it's shocking that anyone still drops by. You're mad!
How do I win on Fruit Machines?
Sadly there is no easy way of winning money on these machines. They say that to win the most money, you shouldn't play them at all.. but of course, where is the fun in that?!
It isn't a case of how to play but generally when to play. You will have heard all sorts of things from friends who claim to have found ways to beat machines but most of it is just rubbish.
The basic rule is that these machines are fixed and there is usually no real skill to playing them (with a few notable exceptions as you will see in the individual guides).
When you have to select a bonus or take a chance, the machine nearly always operates on pseudo skill. This is when a player perceives a feature as genuine skill even when it is not. Repeat chances also work on this principle, so trying to time a repeat is not going to do anything more than pressing the button with your eyes closed!
Only when a machine offers you "true skill", sometimes when you're invited to hold down a button at the same time, can you actually have any control over the bonus, chance, win or repeat. Incidentally on machines that give a true skill repeat on the jackpot, the machine has already chosen to give the repeat. It is therefore doing nothing but giving you a "skill" chance of losing, when you couldn't before.
Sometimes, because of the fixed nature of the gameplay, a machine will give you wins even if you try to lose or don't know what you are doing. This is why complete novices can often win as wins literally spin in, or the machine goes invincible (and usually makes it quite obvious by saying something on the display!).
Many machines now have hidden features and little tricks that can make a regular player feel that they can win more often than someone who doesn't know anything about the machine. In many cases this is true because you might be offered easy wins in a short period of time that a casual player wouldn't notice. For example, you may know a particular feature is a guaranteed JP, while a casual player will gamble on and lose.
The problem arises when, by knowing all of the tricks, you play the machine more. The average punter that puts in a few quid and wins a tenner is satisfied and walks away happy. Meanwhile, the regular player keeps playing looking for more bonuses and cheats. The result is that the "experienced" player can potentially lose a lot more when the machine doesn't play exactly as expected!
JPM once claimed that a machine (Big 50) had a staggering 48 hidden features. Just imagine how much money a serious addict would pump in to try to discover (and master) all of these tricks, especially as there weren't any fruit machine web sites to help out back then!!!
Finally, a lot of machines are designed to streak and pay big lumps of money in one go. Suffice to say, this means it will play badly at most times in order to collect.
An industry insider explained it as follows;
"Over a given number of plays (usually around 1000) the machine will take a certain percentage of money (usually 1% of each play) and put it in a stabiliser, or a rave bank as my mate the programmer says. Anyway, a flag is set in the software to say "when I've got this much in my bank, go raving (i.e. a win streak)" and the money is paid out until the stabiliser is empty and the process starts again..."
i) ALWAYS AT ANY STAGE WIN MONEY FROM A MACHINE AS PLAY TENDS TO INFINITY REGARDLESS OF PLAY PRIOR TO YOUR PLAY.
Forcing is
i) GOING ALL OUT TAKING NOTHING UNTIL JACKPOT/TOP FEATURE IS AWARDED.
Sponsered by Jon Morris of the UKFMP>>>
Please remember do not discuss emptiers, methods or clever tricks on the forums. If you had a system to make a good income, why would you share it with anyone else? PMs only please. Also hinting about good methods to make quick £35s is really annoying, please, if you know it, just please don't flap it about.
Dec 2006: Still here? I stopped running the board years ago so it's shocking that anyone still drops by. You're mad!
How do I win on Fruit Machines?
Sadly there is no easy way of winning money on these machines. They say that to win the most money, you shouldn't play them at all.. but of course, where is the fun in that?!
It isn't a case of how to play but generally when to play. You will have heard all sorts of things from friends who claim to have found ways to beat machines but most of it is just rubbish.
The basic rule is that these machines are fixed and there is usually no real skill to playing them (with a few notable exceptions as you will see in the individual guides).
When you have to select a bonus or take a chance, the machine nearly always operates on pseudo skill. This is when a player perceives a feature as genuine skill even when it is not. Repeat chances also work on this principle, so trying to time a repeat is not going to do anything more than pressing the button with your eyes closed!
Only when a machine offers you "true skill", sometimes when you're invited to hold down a button at the same time, can you actually have any control over the bonus, chance, win or repeat. Incidentally on machines that give a true skill repeat on the jackpot, the machine has already chosen to give the repeat. It is therefore doing nothing but giving you a "skill" chance of losing, when you couldn't before.
Sometimes, because of the fixed nature of the gameplay, a machine will give you wins even if you try to lose or don't know what you are doing. This is why complete novices can often win as wins literally spin in, or the machine goes invincible (and usually makes it quite obvious by saying something on the display!).
Many machines now have hidden features and little tricks that can make a regular player feel that they can win more often than someone who doesn't know anything about the machine. In many cases this is true because you might be offered easy wins in a short period of time that a casual player wouldn't notice. For example, you may know a particular feature is a guaranteed JP, while a casual player will gamble on and lose.
The problem arises when, by knowing all of the tricks, you play the machine more. The average punter that puts in a few quid and wins a tenner is satisfied and walks away happy. Meanwhile, the regular player keeps playing looking for more bonuses and cheats. The result is that the "experienced" player can potentially lose a lot more when the machine doesn't play exactly as expected!
JPM once claimed that a machine (Big 50) had a staggering 48 hidden features. Just imagine how much money a serious addict would pump in to try to discover (and master) all of these tricks, especially as there weren't any fruit machine web sites to help out back then!!!
Finally, a lot of machines are designed to streak and pay big lumps of money in one go. Suffice to say, this means it will play badly at most times in order to collect.
An industry insider explained it as follows;
"Over a given number of plays (usually around 1000) the machine will take a certain percentage of money (usually 1% of each play) and put it in a stabiliser, or a rave bank as my mate the programmer says. Anyway, a flag is set in the software to say "when I've got this much in my bank, go raving (i.e. a win streak)" and the money is paid out until the stabiliser is empty and the process starts again..."
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