Boosting to £15 (nudges) good sign that it's "on"?

[Dynamike]

yeh agree with lukestar (for once), you would know as its £75 light - where you would get screwed is if it were REFILLED after the £75, then you came after the refill - the thing is, considering it offers that you should be able to get the top for £20-50, which will give £25-35 anyway, so you wouldnt get too stung. The machine has a "board" jp in it, rather than being anywhere near streaking

Keys are virtually useless on M/Cs with changers, usually if they're full it's refill day.

I disagree, I've heard this from other players, oh people put £20's in etc. but they will no doubt lose the £20 and so NOT take any coins out anyway. Also if a machine is £75 light 95% of the time its because its been played out NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TOOK CHANGE!!! I mean come on if you key something and its £75 light, you aint going to play it out unless it shows 1st board! Generally machines around £50 light on note acceptors are NOT worth it.

Tbh I find most machines with note acceptors to be as full as those without, unless they are incorrectly filled ( ie. £125 /£100 refill rather than £250 ).

I'd not be playing out any red over £20 light, regardless of whether it has a note acceptor, unless it was red 1st board (or gave NR or something else obviously off its tits happy), thats the long and short of it.

Sometimes when I'm on a night out I'll watch the machines when I'm not playing them. A common scenario is people sticking in a twenty and playing a board or two then dropping the rest out. It's also not that uncommon for people to use them as a change machine for another machine in the pub which has a broken or tempramental changer.

If I didn't play a machine with a changer that was more than £20 off I wouldn't play half the machines I do. I find more machines* £50+ off ready to go than machines on a genuine drop.

*usually 'Crests or Extremes over Reds but I'd certainly include them in that sentence

[mr BIG]

yeh agree with lukestar (for once), you would know as its £75 light - where you would get screwed is if it were REFILLED after the £75, then you came after the refill - the thing is, considering it offers that you should be able to get the top for £20-50, which will give £25-35 anyway, so you wouldnt get too stung. The machine has a "board" jp in it, rather than being anywhere near streaking

Keys are virtually useless on M/Cs with changers, usually if they're full it's refill day.

I disagree, I've heard this from other players, oh people put £20's in etc. but they will no doubt lose the £20 and so NOT take any coins out anyway. Also if a machine is £75 light 95% of the time its because its been played out NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TOOK CHANGE!!! I mean come on if you key something and its £75 light, you aint going to play it out unless it shows 1st board! Generally machines around £50 light on note acceptors are NOT worth it.

Tbh I find most machines with note acceptors to be as full as those without, unless they are incorrectly filled ( ie. £125 /£100 refill rather than £250 ).

I'd not be playing out any red over £20 light, regardless of whether it has a note acceptor, unless it was red 1st board (or gave NR or something else obviously off its tits happy), thats the long and short of it.

If this is the way you play fair enough, but I bet you are leaving behind loads of ready machines.

I have lost count of the times I have done red that has been over 50, even 100 off. I think people read far toi much into hopper balances. Regardless of the hopper balance, if its ready, its ready.

To be honest I hardly ever use my key anymore. The only time being when playing a red with no note acceptor.

[Mattb]

Yeah i agree....hopper balances aren't the be all and end all. I've done reds that have been £150 odd off before and still come away trumps.

[ob]

well I did say I would play a board and see what it was doing, not to not play it at all... I mean come on reds are so BLOODY EASY - IS IT RED OR IS IT GREEN THERE U GO!!!!!!!!!!

lets face it whats more likely - do well on a red which is within £20, or do well on one that is £75 light.... this is given both are NOT RED to start - obviously if they are red your going to play them, this is so obvious

Matt £150+ light represents incorrect refill amount thats why uve had results on them this light!

I think people try and make out that reds are harder than they actually are, every MUG knows if you start the board and majority are red with nowt there its ready, its not rocket science, if it wasnt so obvious I wouldnt be posting it on here!

[toothless11]

And blue. Sorry for being pedantic.

[Mattb]

It's not always incorrect refills. It just happens sometimes.

[anfield road]

Yeah but it can be redding which means a guarenteed £50 then if it goes all green for 4 boards then its a £75 and you might have left it.

I just check for the £5 block if possible its usually really easy to judge a red

[toothless11]

Yeah but then it can come down to are you at the end of the 5 pound block or at the begining? I mean it could of already blocked at 5 pound 7 times before you played it. The only way to really know is to take a risk on them. If they continue to play poorly then you know its dead and yes you will lose a few quid on it. You should get some back through toggles, etc.

[Alpine021]

Am i missing here or something or has every1 forgot to play overnight??

Your keying is your first insight and that's it. Also as i keep saying - check the last bank amount won, last note inserted, last win etc..

Also see how fast the reels r spinning, how much it's costing per board, how much it's gambling to etc.

You may lose £10 - £15 finding out information but if u're good then u can walk or take a win and walk (not recommended on lifes a beach - just walk if not playing well)

This is better than losing around £50 or more and if u find it is playing then this £10 - £15 will be irrelevant as it will contribute to what u've put in the machine and you should end up up by about the same amount or more in profit.

Am i just stating what should be the obvious here or what?!

We all know that it's about winning in the long run. On a lot of days i must lose (or waste - depending on how u look at it) £40 / £50 doing the above, getting boards etc. but it's all about what u finish the day with which is normally a decent profit. And that is after paying for drinks / travel etc.

[toothless11]

Why not just play for some boards. If it reds then its there. If it doesn't then collect a 5er or a feature and then play for another board. If it looks dead then collect and walk. In some cases though, especially on SAs and invincibles it takes a couple of boards to see if they are 'there' or not as during streaking they go through a dead patch, or what appears to be a dead patch.