just that old chestnut

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:57 am

I think that my comment about titchno1 has been taken out of context. I've not got a problem with people working stuff out. Every now and again some general member of the public will stumble across something and make some cash from it. But that still leaves them in the pool, and their cash is still coming our way. When you introduce a new player the scene, what you're effectively doing is stopping them filling up all the other machines as well. It's doubley bad. They're not only doing your scores, they're not losing on them either. So I stand by what I said, he shouldn't be playing machines as a viable lifestyle, as that requires significant input from outsiders: coaching, what's good to play what's not, but most significant of all - shattering the illusion that it is a game of chance: an attitude that still prevails amongst many of those filling machines up.

amazing · Post by **amazing** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:04 am

JG wrote:Firstly Amazing's avatar. It looks like Rob Brydon with saggy tits dressed up as Superman with that swinger from Benidorm. I'm viewing it on my phone so I could be wrong.

Secondly, to be fair to Will he said that he himself shouldn't have been introduced to the game.

However saying that he has a problem with Titchno playing in a profitable way is just hot air. Of course Titchno will play in a knowledgable way, isn't that the very basis of what we do? In that respect Lee is right about a gigantic superiority complex. In fact if Titchno worked out something himself making himself more knowledgable, by Will's standards that should be applauded, not denigrated.

I have nothing much to say about the whole Glendale situation. It just seems to be one man's word against another. I don't know any of the parties involved. For the record I have knowingly created ZERO new players. However even my tight lipped squeaky clean image is not perfect. A while back I told Rob a useful titbit of information. For that deed I have been labelled a big mouth by some individuals. Fair enough, it's all about perspective, mitigating circumstances and keeping your head screwed on. I'm sure all of us have opened our mouth at some point. The key is if the right person was listening. That's where big mistakes are made. I still maintain Rob and OB are the right people. No doubt there are many more. Stay away from the oiks and it'll be ok.

Russ
Abbot
Cooper man

JG · Post by JG » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:09 am

I almost totally agree with you Will. Your choice of words at one point is not great IMO. You say Titchno shouldn't be playing professionally. Surely you mean it would be better if Titchno wasn't playing professionally. I have no qualms with the latter. Before I continue, I'm using Titchno as an example, not having a dig at him as an individual. Equally apt is it would be better if AMK or Kesh or Sparrow or the bloke down the road who can play flickers etc wasn't playing. But they are. It's a total no brainer, the less competition, the better. I know you probably mean shouldn't as in "in an ideal world Titchno shouldn't be playing". Well yes, but it just comes across that you're dictating that Titchno has no right to play fruit machines for a living, when of course he does have this right. I think this is where the rankling is occurring in this thread.

JG · Post by JG » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:11 am

Russ Abbott, yeah I see it now. Not sure on the sidekick, could still be the swinger from Benidorm with my dodgy phone/eyesight

amazing · Post by **amazing** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:13 am

JG wrote:I almost totally agree with you Will. Your choice of words at one point is not great IMO. You say Titchno shouldn't be playing professionally. Surely you mean it would be better if Titchno wasn't playing professionally. I have no qualms with the latter. Before I continue, I'm using Titchno as an example, not having a dig at him as an individual. Equally apt is it would be better if AMK or Kesh or Sparrow or the bloke down the road who can play flickers etc wasn't playing. But they are. It's a total no brainer, the less competition, the better. I know you probably mean shouldn't as in "in an ideal world Titchno shouldn't be playing". Well yes, but it just comes across that you're dictating that Titchno has no right to play fruit machines for a living, when of course he does have this right. I think this is where the rankling is occurring in this thread.

Deff have to agree with all of that to be honest, Anyway its personal I think now ding ding round 2

amazing · Post by **amazing** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:14 am

JG wrote:Russ Abbott, yeah I see it now. Not sure on the sidekick, could still be the swinger from Benidorm with my dodgy phone/eyesight

Howthe fuck do u see a £70 box then lol

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:18 am

Well I'm sorry for any misunderstanding. In some ways, a forum such as this has a lot to answer for in terms of developing a scene. I've highlighted before how someone was able to come to this forum saying he put £££ in an Empire Strikes Back, only to be showing up around my area as a resident professional by the time Live The Dreams were on the ground. If it really is just a question of semantics, I'm more than happy with the way you put it across JG.

JG · Post by JG » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:21 am

Quite easy. Take the penny and the £70 on Make or Steak for example. They both have the whippedy plinkers on the right. The blipple blapple blopples to give it the technical term. However the penny has a whippedy smidger whilst the £70 doesn't. On a BOF the £70 has a swooshy swirly like a £15 on a Mist. Or as Indy says "I don't know I'm just making it up as I go along".

amazing · Post by **amazing** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:22 am

JG wrote:Quite easy. Take the penny and the £70 on Make or Steak for example. They both have the whippedy plinkers on the right. The blipple blapple blopples to give it the technical term. However the penny has a whippedy smidger whilst the £70 doesn't. On a BOF the £70 has a swooshy swirly like a £15 on a Mist. Or as Indy says "I don't know I'm just making it up as I go along".

Got u
I think lol

amazing · Post by **amazing** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:23 am

Noels Beard wrote:Well I'm sorry for any misunderstanding. In some ways, a forum such as this has a lot to answer for in terms of developing a scene. I've highlighted before how someone was able to come to this forum saying he put £££ in an Empire Strikes Back, only to be showing up around my area as a resident professional by the time Live The Dreams were on the ground. If it really is just a question of semantics, I'm more than happy with the way you put it across JG.

Maybe time to lock this then

JG · Post by JG » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:25 am

Yes and the man on the ESB is now going great guns from what I hear. You're quite right that this sort of networking does us no favours professionally so to speak. However it is a useful space on which to let vent a few bloops and bleeps, so it's not all bad.

JG · Post by JG » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:28 am

It's the alternative fruitchat policy, if it all starts getting a bit friendly and agreeable it gets locked. Quick we're only on page 22. Let's talk about Glendale and who he has trained up. There that's the kindling placed near the spark.

Noels Beard · Post by **Noels Beard** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:30 am

I sometimes pop to Wrexham and leave a poo in one of payout trays in the Wetherspoons. It's justifiable.

amazing · Post by **amazing** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:32 am

Noels Beard wrote:I sometimes pop to Wrexham and leave a poo in one of payout trays in the Wetherspoons. It's justifiable.

I've seen a payout tray full of chicken bones lol
But the worst I've put my hands in was drawing pins straight down the old finger nail ouch

redlinesman · Post by **redlinesman** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:24 am

Kong - the London units were untouched until around 4/5 weeks before the trick went widespread, this is an absolute fact. They were full every time I visited for months, apart from being the odd £70 light. There is only a really, really tiny chance that anyone will ever 'feel' me on a trick as my schedules are normally massive. High numbers of units are needed for any 'fully blown' for preservation. If you don't have a schedule you'll only make around 15% of what you could have done. The guys around London knew it was only a 4 week thing for them - it could never have been any other way. Once you have 4/5 people on a trick in a concentrated area, the clock is ticking and the alarm soon goes off. I'm not knocking them, you act upon the circumstances you're dealt.

This is why I work alone and I'm not affiliated with anyone apart from the Chief. Bank busting tricks can last between 1 & 2 years but this wouldn't be the case if I worked with a group. I had a long term trick end in November and as far as I'm aware it stayed exclusive to me. We were undone by a software update that corrected what we were doing by accident, at least that's what I think anyway.

Kind Regards, Sir Linesman