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Ruler of The World wrote:He did actually answer that, it is having to go to the 'trouble and inconvenience' of having to work new things out which is forced upon him when the toerags get the info.

I do agree with most of what he says and it is admirable that he has ditched his info speading creators but that doesn't mean they have stopped spreading the disease and he must realise that there is no organisation in this game, you can form your own little secret society like what he has but do you honestly think you're so much smarter that no one else in the entire country will work out the same thing? Imagine there were 3 of you and you worked something out, no one said a word, then suddenly a gang of 'plebs' came along and were on the same trick, does it necessariy mean that 1 of you leaked it?

I would be very interested to know how Alien got out, I knew from the very beginning about the 7th heaven, I didn't bother because I knew someone else was doing them and I had skill quests popping up everywhere at the time. It was all highly organised, they had the list, they did nothing but Aliens and the superholds and were highly organised... but then what happened at p2? They made even more money... but now more people knew, p3, even more.... who was responsible? Did they give it out or did the 'lesser' players work it out? Until this day I hold my hands up and say you could give me a p2 Alien and I wouldn't be able to win on it! I'm sure I could do a p1 with a little practice though.

So anyway, Darren, your wisecracks are funny I will admit, but do you really admit to creating players? Have you also made a point of the fact they seem thug-ish in their nature just for good measure? Let's allow him to actually answer on this accusation...

Of course it is annoying for all of us when we see ANOTHER player doing something we have just gone to to do ourselves, I get so annoyed, I just think "Fuck's sake! How many of these fucking rats are there now?????????????? WHO IS THIS?????????" I've heard there is a couple who go around my area who are into bullying and threats, haven't bumped into them yet but I am prepared...

It would be so nice if this game was as Will and I would like it to be, tricks wouldn't get spread around like the plague, people would be cut off and banished from our midst if they were guilty as charged like Darren... but this is the real world... it is a 'job' with no official recognition, no employer as such, no workers rights, tribunals, disciplinary hearings, annual leave, pension plan, etc. This is why most of us chose it! Is it a class issue? Its just all a bit rich to me if someone moans when the extent of their moaning is that they have to go and find something new... well at least you have that option! Enjoy having it, make the most of it - I would.

Meanwhile I am here reviewing my own situation, stuck pretty much in the old world, feeling that the new machines all look like crap but I do know a few things here and there which can help me out and hopefully I will get by and not post another "Goodbye" thread...
With something like Alien, it's surely just a case of people being watched/and putting that together with information that people have away for free, because they couldn't make use if it effectively.

Yes, other people/groups do work stuff out, but this happens so rarely it's ridiculous.
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For goodness' sakes, Will! I hear what you're saying but what do you propose?
* LICENCED players? Anyone 'caught' playing in an area gets thrown into a dungeon for 'misbehaving'?
* YOURSELF as some kind of VIP 'player' who has the right to walk in on anyone who is doing the same as you and emptying their bank, pockets, etc. as punishment?
* MENTAL HEALTH CHECKS on these 'new' players who people like Darren are supposedly training up, just in case they might lose their tempers with you?
* ROUTE PLANS which MUST be followed or the 1st 2 points come into force? Everyone must conform to the route plan or just not play altogether, which they must announce since routes must then be reorganised rather like a workplace rota...

Without being disrespectful to you, you seem to want it all your way! There ARE violent people out there, crackheads, plain wankers who just like to be bullies, etc. ACCEPT IT! If you don't like it, you're obviously in the wrong job! I mean, come on, what do you really want to do about it? What CAN be done? Its just how it is! You sound like a striker in a football team moaning that defenders will try to tackle him!
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I agree with you will, I hate people that damage cars threaten etc. I mean I can handle threats before or after a machine but not during. I can't go Sunderland or Newcastle. I was I'm Durham last week I got my student mate to drive for £50 so I could have a swift half. Finished a mist £12 raise. Come back to a smashed windscreen.
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I never have trained paul, he was playing, as stated by titch , long before we met! We trade info yes but on an equal level! No idea about any thug behaviour as i live 250+ miles away and go to newcastle 2/3 times ayear! When i have been there i have never seen any trouble!
As for training i am guilty on one count with andy from bury who drives/works with me! He had lost his job was losing his house and drove me for a week! He picked up quickly on things and more than matchs me and many others! Today he is out on a run and doing well! Trust him and ferdi more than any others!
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Ok you're obviously not going to admit to training Paul/those from the North East, because you can see what a mess you've created. But most of those involved know the truth.
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iv told you me and paul learnt off some one from blackpool years before paul met darren. There is quite a bit of mess actually. Not us chester le street boys lol. Go in to newcastle one lad doesnt drive so he litrally has anyone driving for him. He must of created up to 4 new players of not being able to drive and they have just picked things up for them selves, infact coming to think of it none of them in town drive..... Same goes for sunderland.. I was in a same pub as one the other week in gateshead. He also was apparantly saying if he sees me on his machins again hes going to do this and that. Most of the shit happens very sly. Im more old school the best way. If you have a grudge with me tell me and if you want a bit rumble and tumble lets go win or lose im still going to go there. Rather than some one damaging somones propety because they havnt got any themselves.
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Will why do you really give a fuck? I mean it hasn't affected you directly just made it harder for your mate/s who I'm sure wouldn't be that bothered on the grand scheme of things if they're as great as you proclaim. Plus you're on games no one else is playing so there's no problem but I suspect you get off on this illusion you've created for yourself online.

To be fair to Titch Blackpool has created far more players than anywhere else but then again who really gives a fuck?

Alice. Alice. Who the fuck is Alice?
He isn't right of course, he just thinks he is.
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Will do you talk to any of the north east players? Obviously not the youngins im on about the 4 or 5 old schoolers.
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If i had "trained" paul i would admit so beardy, evidence says different! I said i showed andy a few tricks so why would i lie? Both have helped me out on non machine favours over the years! Paul put me up for a week during my divorce and andy helped me move house and has fixed my motorbike on manyoccasions! More to life than machines son! Go out and chill for a day, see a doctor and get that chip removed off your shoulder!
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It's just your attitude Glendale. So openly destructive. So naive. How many times do I have to tell you that it bothers me out of principle? I understand that 'principles' may be a difficult concept for you to grasp. You have this wonderfully close-minded, us and them attitude to machines, whereby you see them as a beast to be killed and not milked.

Lets get everyone on machines, etc... Can't hurt can it? Well it can, you can only burden this economic beast with so much burden.

Feeder, vis a vis your comments, please see my post from last night. Yeah I can be out playing new stuff, but it might not be as good as old stuff. Might be better, might be worse. I'd prefer the choice.

My objections are mostly to do with bringing new players on the scene. Glendale has admitted to one (I'd say it was more like 6-7). However, if we all bring just one new player on the scene, that doubles the player population. How does that sound to you?
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Will, its you with the problem son! Can honestly say, ive been on one thing for at least 6 months! Not one to boast but dont make me out as a joey and you as a king! Done it on many progs as well! Shame a chip came out monday on your scam! P3 time will? PM for info old chum!
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Fucking Yawn Yawn Yawn.

Enough is enough now.

Same nonsense back and forward.
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Could not agree more mate! Will, please leave the building and let Mr Glendale follow you! Nobodys right or wrong son so let others enjoy the site! Pm if you have a prob thats different!
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I've been on aliens at least 6 months!
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PM info please scott! :-)
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