Gambling Nation

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:51 pm

ffs is this anonamouse for real?

Roll_With_It_Russ · Post by **Roll_With_It_Russ** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:45 pm

GaryChandler wrote:ffs is this anonamouse for real?

perfectly valid to have that veiwpoint, goes a long way to explain why they are problem gambling, thinking they are "due a win", it "has to pay out soon", "lost because its fixed".

Then when people have these veiws, they get angry when they are wrong.

Its the worst thing ever in my opinion to belive that such devices are programmed to pay out a certain amount, i've seen players lose hundreds, only to sit there playing a few 20ps just to stop others going on the machine because they thing the next player along will win there money. Or even funnier "save" a machine while they go to the bank or counter to get more funds. This line of thought shows exactly what sort of players are punting these, hardly going to go skint in the casino and say, "stop spinning on that table till I get more money"(saying that I have seen punters agree to stop playing a BJ shoe while someone goes to cashier, but then that is valid reasoning).

I know long term casino punters who swear blind the wheels are controlled by magnets or some such when they lose.

The Dark Horse · Post by **The Dark Horse** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:50 am

This programme was full of shit, £150 million out of £500 million FOBT income (30%) is from problematic gamblers, and they act shocked at that. The real figure must be over 90% if not 95%, no one has a casual punt on FOBT's. As Russ said it was just more watered down inaccurate bollocks for the media to feed the ignorant with. I agree maths lessons should contain relevant teaching, but the most important thing that been omitted from modern day teaching thanks to the "elites" is actually "independent thinking", one of the most important lessons in the syllabus since Ancient Greek times was cut out around 100 years ago to pave the way for the conditioned, subservient public of today.

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:20 pm

capitalism has a lot to answer for.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:18 pm

veering slightly off topic ,,,,,,, if you really want an education as to how the '' elite '' run the world ,,,,,,, the bankers , the illuminati etc etc

go to you tube and watch a documentary called '' thrive ''

its quite long , and a little wishy washy in parts ,,,,,,, but by the end , you'll understand

jeffvickers · Post by **jeffvickers** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:55 pm

Blimey, even pro-slotters are "waking up"!

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:37 pm

funny cause Corals are doing Thai Flower bonus promotion - you can win £5000

Gambling Nation actually advertises & promotes FOBTs, machines today in Corals were raping punters even the disabled were pumping roulette with their gov allowance.

Ya'll gonna see people fighting for FOBT seats soon.

The Dark Horse · Post by **The Dark Horse** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:54 pm

Thanks Lee, personally I don't take most of the stuff to do with "illuminati" on youtube very seriously, mostly paranoid conspiracy theories and general misinformation but I've actually been recommended "Thrive" by someone else before and forgot to watch it so I'll definitely make sure I take a look.

asfish · Post by **asfish** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:08 pm

Is there a change in the JP on the way? A number of machines will pay out more that £500 on £2 a spin

I got a screen full of plumbs on DoubleFruitastic and it paid £1000 capped to £500 of course

Looks like a few machines have the higher JP all ready

Roll_With_It_Russ · Post by **Roll_With_It_Russ** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:29 pm

asfish wrote:Is there a change in the JP on the way? A number of machines will pay out more that £500 on £2 a spin

I got a screen full of plumbs on DoubleFruitastic and it paid £1000 capped to £500 of course

Looks like a few machines have the higher JP all ready

don't confuse the way a win is displayed with the amount awarded

maverick69 · Post by **maverick69** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:43 pm

I dont see how people can play them, they are disgusting pieces of shit. I would love it if high street bookies all closed down and i dont give a shit about making 50,000 ppl unemployed. They are horrible, horrible places

mikej82 · Post by **mikej82** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:03 pm

LOL @ Thrive, who do thinks behind it?.................................................................................................................................................................................................................. LOL

LOL

anonamouse · Post by **anonamouse** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:13 pm

GaryChandler wrote:ffs is this anonamouse for real?

in a word, no.

The Dark Horse · Post by **The Dark Horse** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:05 pm

Ok so I watched that "Thrive" and I wasn't very impressed to say the least. I've watched quite a lot of these kind of Youtube documentaries and to me they mostly come across as minefields of disinformation with the odd snippet of truth diluted and buried within. Most of them share a few themes but they also generally contradict other similair videos. From a conspiracists point of view it's very much seems that most of the videos on Youtube meant to "enlighten" people seem to be more set on discrediting the more genuine theories by throwing them into a pot full of unbelievable rubbish mixed in with scaremongering, racism and scientific "facts" that don't add up.

"Thrive" seems to be aimed more at the mainstream viewer and not the hardened conspiracy theorist. In terms of it focuses on the basics of conspiracy theories and scaremongering/angering subjects with little focus on the more out there theories, although there is a brief section on UFOs and aliens. The concept of the "Toros" energy field is more widely and credibly explained by the "Fibonacci Sequence", but the "Toros" concept conveniently fits in with the film makers free energy and UFO theories which seems to be the reason of its use. The film uses a lot of clips from David Icke's work which I wouldn't really recommend anyone to follow. He's widely known for peddling flagrant misinformation in the form of ridiculous theories involving reptiles, aliens and anything else his "research" comes across.

All in all I'd "Thrive" is at the least misinformative and at the worst potentially dangerous. When films like these are designed to appeal to the public I find that usually, like this one, they are full of propaganda and hatemongering with little of no focus on scientific or factual evidence. The problem is that the general public seem to turn off when boring scientific explanations come on the screen through lack of interest and understanding, yet when public friendly propaganda appears people fall for it and sit glued like zombies. This leads to people like a lot of my friends who have attempted to "enlighten" me over recent years since these internet videos became more widespread, they watch stuff like "Thrive" and then preach their latest brainwashing like it's the one and only wholly factual truth of the universe.

I found "Thrive" particularly annoying for several reasons, mainly the woman in it who was openly attempting to anger the viewer and incite hatred towards the unseen elite, while the man in it spouts the banking system basics along with a little scientific and alien mumbo jumbo thrown in to excite the viewer, then tells you to join his organisation or network whilst painting a trouble free future if you do. Why is this so wrong? Well firstly it should be pretty obvious to anyone that inciting anger, hatred and revolution against organised tyranny would only result in more wars and deaths. Most conspiracy theorists concur that the elites main aim is population reduction which is all this would achieve. The details of this "Thrive" organisations plans for the future are vague and lack substance and seem to be nothing more than a ploy to encourage the viewer to join their "network" which undoubtedly would involve more hatred brainwashing and categorisation under their organisation. This really is the worst kind of these internet films to watch.

Don't get me wrong I'm someone that is very interested in conspiracy theories and while I'll go as far as to say I believe certain "out there" things like: the banking system is negative and corrupt, governments are tyrannical, religion divides and controls the masses rather than passes its true message on, the media attempts to mould our thinking and that resources, education and technology are all suppressed for financial gain, I also believe that most of the videos on Youtube about these subjects are full of stupid people spreading ridiculous ideas or dishonest propaganda aimed at the public.

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:49 pm

the stuff you mention in the last paragraph is all true, nothing theoretical about it!