dont know if this if true

Ruler of The World · Post by **Ruler of The World** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:45 am

Purely for that reason, these people are cunts who I hate. All those times people get sent over towards us to have a nose, see what's going on - its thanks to them. All those times we're accused of 'doing something' putting something in the machine, etc. Its them!!!

Ruler of The World · Post by **Ruler of The World** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:47 am

I had that cunt Tom stood behind me waiting for me to 'let him' tool a Win Stopper I was in the process of emptying! He said 'my way is much faster' and I said 'good for you but there won't be anything left in it by the time you get on it!' or something like that...

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:54 am

I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone but I wish these toolers would get locked up indefinitely so they don't fire it up for us legit guys. Whenever I hear of anyone going to prison for it I'm extremely happy. Having said that, if I got told that I had to choose someone to have cancer these guys would be pretty high up the list.

I don't understand why some are ok with it on here, it's a life choice these criminals make for sure but it's akin to robbing a bank or similar, if you're friends with such people then that's your choice but it's not one id make. they say you're reflected by the company you keep, so there you go. I think some people actually think its cool to be friends with people like this, which is hilarious. Some people in this game also think its cool to have no work ethic, or to have no savings, which is also pretty hilarious, but another story.

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:57 am

Have you got mates who deal drugs Dan?

Ruler of The World · Post by **Ruler of The World** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:18 pm

Some would say we were equals in that pub, both knew ways to empty the machine and end result would be the same - machine having no coins in it when we left. One of us would be doing it with a tool, the other with what he has learned about the machine. You could actually argue he would have done more of a favour for the pub as he would have been done in a matter of minutes yet I would take a good couple of hours, hence allowing the machine less time to actually take some money... to the pub landlord, I'd be surprised if he didn't see both of us as scum and had any more respect for me emptying 'legitimately' as opposed to Tom's 'robbing' as end result was the same.

ob · Post by ob » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:52 pm

Good point that!

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:25 pm

I still see empties as thieving. You're still manipulating that machine via tool or knowledge. It's not supposed to do that so if very body was so high and mighty why bothe taking the cash. You are deceiving the machine and taking money not rightfully yours. Some people just think there so intelligent and above somebody because there “players" and not toolers. We've already discussed that most players are lowlife and untrustworthy. Are players that much different to toolers?

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:27 pm

I don't give a shit about toolers. I just worry what I'm doing. There has always been the thought of “magnets" even when I was at school

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:17 pm

betchrider wrote:Have you got mates who deal drugs Dan?

No mate. To be fair I dont have any mates that are involved in criminal activity that I know of!

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:24 pm

I'm not saying most players are that much different to toolers in terms of how much you can trust them, but comparing doing an emptier, which is performed with knowledge and coins as opposed to tools/devices is like comparing chalk and cheese. Toolers don't take advantage of a programming flaw, whereas emptiers or methods do.

It's basically like saying a professional horse punter is the same as someone that rigs races.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:47 pm

Have you never keyed a fruit then ratholer? Or do extremes off the key? Or used the plug on a fruit? I Cant agree with the cancer thing about toolers tho when there are people out there who hurt innocent children and rob old ladies homes.

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:01 pm

Never keyed an extreme. Used 5ps on a lot though. Keyed 15 barcs but never bothered since noteys came out, and that's not illegal anyway so I don't see the point there...don't plug stuff. Too much hassle. I want to be able to sleep easily and not worry about who's knocking on my front door.

On the point of keys I think using to ascertain a hopper balance is very different to using it on extremes to obtain holds.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:26 pm

Not having a pop mate was just asking, As the law dont know there arse from there elbows when it comes to machines.

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:40 pm

thecannonball89 wrote:Not having a pop mate was just asking, As the law dont know there arse from there elbows when it comes to machines.

No worries mate, been stopped twice by the police, once for a Hilo silver, once for an alien, to be fair I was treated very well although obviously it's an unnecessary hassle when I've done nothing wrong, but have heard a few horror stories before too, phones seized, bank accounts frozen apparently.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:49 pm

Me and a mate went onto a haven we played the cluedo in the bar while unknown to us a rainbow was being robbed in the arcade. We got nicked for it and was in the cells for 12 hours with cash and phones seized. The police have no idea about fruits.
They are quick enough to come in pubs all guns blazing thinking they know it all but when it comes down to landlords turning machines off when moneys in the bank its somehow nothing to do with them?