are you real boxes random?

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:01 pm

Of course Red boxing isn't random, now and then they can hold off even though it's phoning but generally They appear just before it's fully phoning.

I imagine there's a bit of a RNG style program with the reel, you couldn't empty various DOND's over the years if there wasn't a decent element of randomness to the boxes, it would just spin a penny box in if you'd trapped a phone game when it's miles off ready to phone.

Look at mega's, Matt V will get CP offer then a £70 following board, BFK will get CP offer after a right battle and even though the machine is well ahead he'll get £10's & £20's or 10p's repeating 6 times.

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:06 pm

BFK wrote:How?

BRT's/Golds nearly always have pish boxes.

I've played perfects totally on their arse and had double £70 boxes. If this were controlled I'd be surprised.

Perfect GAMES and clones rarely give you fuck all in your box and are by far the worse. Tricky one to call.

I'd say some are, some arent. But I wouldnt be swayed by either party.

With my luck its possible I've had 100 bad boxes in a row on some of the less playable donds where as the Vinyl one has probably had that many good boxes in a row.

So I'll sit on the fence!!

I hadn't read this before my last reply, Wonder why we both used Matt V lol

I admit it seems heavily weighted in the shitter box compartment which shows an element of control but like you say, a fucked unit that gets ripped would have the control to steer clear of the £70 if there wasn't some kind of random aspect in the program.

How is it the proper shit machines can constantly give shit boxes, yet the playable stuff can get fucked by us then proper fucked for a Brucie bonus.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:43 pm

maverick69 · Post by **maverick69** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:53 pm

Scott wrote:P5?

exactly, fuckin took ages to get these out

Cf · Post by Cf » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:29 pm

Random IMO.

These shitter machines you mention too i've had plenty of MP/£50s from them.

MOBs were getting twatted and put so far behind yet it would still put the £70 in there.

BFK · Post by **BFK** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:43 pm

I'd forgotten about MOB!

Maverick????

feeder22 · Post by **feeder22** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:58 pm

I'd say its random had so many big boxes when the machines dead.

No ones mentioned fames yet

A few of the most current run-arounds would of been a hell of a lot harder if it wasnt for the fact of boxes.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:04 pm

course their random ,,,,,,,,,it would be unfair to the public if they couldn't get lucky now and again with a high box off peanuts.

its a good thing too ,,,,,,,,,,, if it gives joe munter a good incentive now and again to keep playing ,,,,,,,,,,,,, it's better for us in the long run.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:05 pm

What about fames power5s wiyb mob?? If the box wasent random it would have to be 70pound ready to put jackpot in the box?????

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:55 pm

maverick69 wrote:exactly, fuckin took ages to get these out

Nice when you got a good run, did a 125 in about 8 boards once.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:30 pm

If box was not random on power 5s that were 1000s behind wouldnt evrv box be £2 or under?

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:39 pm

Agree.

deano8177 · Post by **deano8177** » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:24 pm

DONDs They are random. If you want non random just look at the barcrest Versions, now they are controlled middle games.

ob · Post by ob » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:54 am

trayhop123 wrote:course their random ,,,,,,,,,it would be unfair to the public if they couldn't get lucky now and again with a high box off peanuts.

its a good thing too ,,,,,,,,,,, if it gives joe munter a good incentive now and again to keep playing ,,,,,,,,,,,,, it's better for us in the long run.

LOL how can u say that DONDs are random Lee, when u say roulette is fixed!!!!

Look at DOND Gold anyone who has long experience on that machine KNOWS it is not random on that at all, u try getting £70 or cashpot in the box, you can have 100+ games etc. and not get it EASILY....

I'm sure on my lifetime of bubbles boxes 1p/£1/£35/£70, I've had more 1p/£1 by FAR than £35/70! Can anyone really say the opposite?!?!

Anyone that owns a DOND machine, try playing 1000 DOND games, see what comes up more... 1p or £70... WHOS BETTING ON THE £70!?!??!

There is clearly randomness to the box, but I'd say that the WEIGHTING given to the lower boxes is more than to the higher boxes, and on different games, this seems to change, ie. on golds there is a STRONG weighting against £70/cashpot!!!

This allows for it to always have a CHANCE of being £70 whatever state the machine is in...

Infact I'm rather suprised people on here that are long timers truely believe its 100% random the selection with no weighting at all, surely years of playing them says different!

Who can say they have had £70 on a MEGA dond 1/16 games... SURELY everyone knows the £70 is weighted against on those!!!

logopolis · Post by **logopolis** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:08 am

Funnily enough I got a 70 box on a Mega DOND today for less than a score in. Cashpots lowish but first bonus gave skill. I think you are probably correct Richard when you say random but weighted towards lower boxes more so on some DONDs than others.