Betting Shop Terminals

[harry2]

Playing a roulette terminal that has just taken wads of money makes no difference. Trying to compare AWPs and FOBTS is wrong.

[blackmogu]

tell you what , i go london , once or twice every week now , ,,,,,,,, will be there this thursday with martal ,,,,,,,,,, wanna meet up ,,,,,,, i'll bet you £50 right now , witnessed on here , that we wont have to check more than say 20 terminals to see a 4 out of 10 last history.

you up for it.????


ps why would i take up any official complaint ,,,,,,,,,,, i dont play em , lest a lucky 8 pot , and that would have to be 150 plus for me to even think about it.

I'll take that bet. I'll try to find a £50 note with four of the same numbers in the serial, just in case !

I'd take up a complaint just to do it. I don't like shonky operations. I've also had a fair bit of experience in taking companies to court, so the process (which I imagine is the main put-off for most people considering it) is familiar to me.

[redlinesman]

I'll say it again.

If it happens all the time, why not make a complaint to whatever regulatory body monitors these terminals and then sue William Hills / Ladbrokes when the results are proven to back up your assertation ? You'd be doing many poor addicted people a favour, a true benefit to society.

Put all your armchair spouting to good use. If you are so certain, do something about it and help others to stop being robbed. After all, if what you say happens, it will be statistically evident.

You're getting confused again. There is no complaint to be made and they are doing nothing wrong. The only thing that everyone is saying is, it is not like playing roulette at a casino. The casino house advantage is replaced with a computerised percentage.

[trayhop123]

seriously , if you wanna meet up , pm me wed night , and i'll give you my moby.

i'll even sweeten the deal

if you win ( highly doubtful ) then fair enough , here's ya £50 ,,,,,,, if you lose , i'll buy the 3 of us dinner with your £50

[ob]

Right Im sorry Lee you are spouting ridiculous bollox here...

Have you actually been to many casinos, have you sat and watched thousands of spins to see what happens on live tables... NO... the same dopey patterns can be seen live as on roulette in bookies...

I've seen millions of spins off FOBT roulette and noticed no such patterns that you mentioned any more frequently than the statistically deemed amount... I bet I've seen WAY WAY more FOBT roulette than you aswell, and I'm certainly not proud of this fact.

I mean in any case, if there were ANY pattern that was REMOTELY obvious, then they could be expolited for millions, which I doubt will be the case...

Clearly you are being very short sighted and do not understand the nature of randomness at all.

PS> Im not bullshitting when I state that I'm long run up on FOBTs either, so if they were rigged please do explain...

Also Lee I'm up for doing your idea, with a bet off £500 rather than £50, lets not beat around the bush. Higher stakes are also acceptable

[blackmogu]

I'll say it again.

If it happens all the time, why not make a complaint to whatever regulatory body monitors these terminals and then sue William Hills / Ladbrokes when the results are proven to back up your assertation ? You'd be doing many poor addicted people a favour, a true benefit to society.

Put all your armchair spouting to good use. If you are so certain, do something about it and help others to stop being robbed. After all, if what you say happens, it will be statistically evident.

You're getting confused again. There is no complaint to be made and they are doing nothing wrong. The only thing that everyone is saying is, it is not like playing roulette at a casino. The casino house advantage is replaced with a computerised percentage.

I assure you i'm not getting confused. What you are not hearing me say is that I disagree that the casino house advantage, is being replaced by a computerised percentage. The percentage is determined already by the definitions of the game. The random numbers generated remove the need for any "computing".

[blackmogu]

Right Im sorry Lee you are spouting ridiculous bollox here...

Have you actually been to many casinos, have you sat and watched thousands of spins to see what happens on live tables... NO... the same dopey patterns can be seen live as on roulette in bookies...

I've seen millions of spins off FOBT roulette and noticed no such patterns that you mentioned any more frequently than the statistically deemed amount... I bet I've seen WAY WAY more FOBT roulette than you aswell, and I'm certainly not proud of this fact.

I mean in any case, if there were ANY pattern that was REMOTELY obvious, then they could be expolited for millions, which I doubt will be the case...

Clearly you are being very short sighted and do not understand the nature of randomness at all.

PS> Im not bullshitting when I state that I'm long run up on FOBTs either, so if they were rigged please do explain...

Also Lee I'm up for doing your idea, with a bet off £500 rather than £50, lets not beat around the bush. Higher stakes are also acceptable

Let's make a 2-for 2-against day of it on Thursday ob

Lee, I accept your wager !

[ob]

You really don't know how wrong you are here Lee, I bet if I checked 100 tomoro Id see 1/2 at MOST have 4 same numbers on the history.

Infact I'd actually say the odds are not a single one has done it.

Blackmogu is right, there is not a computerised %age, its just an AVERAGE PERCENTAGE THAT GAME WILL PAY!!! ITS NOT COMPENSATED - IT DOESNT HAVE TO REACH THAT %AGE

[trayhop123]

well im gonna stick to my guns , ive seen 4 out of 10 , and 5 out of 12 many times ( in like ob says, even my limited visits) so pm me wed night mr mogu ,,,,,,,,, £50 isnt a lot to lose either way.

as for your good self ob ,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,, im up for a bit of fun wager with anyone , but 500 is silly , ,,,,,,,,,,,, and we are only checking 20 units historys afterall.



you cant tell me that you haven't all OFTEN seen say 14,14,30,14 ......... its a regular occurrence ,,,,,,,,,,,, you must have george

[ob]

well im gonna stick to my guns , ive seen 4 out of 10 , and 5 out of 12 many times ( in like ob says, even my limited visits) so pm me wed night mr mogu ,,,,,,,,, £50 isnt a lot to lose either way.

as for your good self ob ,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,, im up for a bit of fun wager with anyone , but 500 is silly , ,,,,,,,,,,,, and we are only checking 20 units historys afterall.



you cant tell me that you haven't all OFTEN seen say 14,14,30,14 ......... its a regular occurrence ,,,,,,,,,,,, you must have george

No I havent Lee, honestly... you have seen this stuff coincidentally obviously... take it from someone who has played the game ALOT! I've very rarely seen it.

I'll give you 100 terminals Lee as the bet, for £1000....:P

Sure you don't wanna go for it?

[trayhop123]

You really don't know how wrong you are here Lee, I bet if I checked 100 tomoro Id see 1/2 at MOST have 4 same numbers on the history.

did you just miss write the above m8???? or am i reading it wrong .

because ( if im reading it right ?)lol ,,,,, it looks like your agreeing with me here and saying 50 of em will have 4 out of 10 in their historys ????????

[Scott]

1 or 2 not half.

[Stevie S]

If they really were shafting people they would surely just make sure it hit any number apart from yours and not leave a suspicious trail of impossible numbers on every game. The number thing happens in both worlds, it is one of those natural phenomenons that occur from something random, there has been tons of documentries in the past about how somethin random begins to form patterns for no explainable reason!!

[ob]

1 or 2 not half.

yes quite...

[trayhop123]

ahhhhh , cheers scott


no wait ,,,,,,,,, if thats the case ,,,,,,, then he's admitting he would see 2 units with 4 out of 10 sequences ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so why would he then risk a grand with me?