Is this illegal??????

porkman · Post by **porkman** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:34 pm

Oli wrote:
MrRed wrote:Yes but with the extreme method, you were getting boards solely by use of the key
That is certainly something that 'could' be classed as cheating, scamming etc
I believe it is legal to own and carry one, but once you use it in the machine then it becomes illegal
I may be wrong though
I dont know the exact quote of the law but its illegal to tamper with the machine in a way that alters the machines behaviour. The key does not does this, as it alters the way YOU play (although not so much these days) and not the machine. If it is ready to pay out then it will do so whether the key is used or not. Therefore, it is legal to own, carry and use a refill key.

Now, if you use it on the old extreme machines then technically that is illegal as it does alter how the machine behaves. However, as already stated by others this is diffcult to prove and no one has been done for it.

Pub staff and even CPOs and police officers are sometimes not 100% clued up on this, and therefore may be convinced it is illegal and a crime commited even when there has not been. I'm not sure if legally its enough for them to arrest you on 'suspicion of theft' but I wouldnt be surprised if they did anyway.

Ok this key is for the old extreme machines, and it definately alters how the machine behaves.

But from the rest of your post I guess maybe my firend is right, he is NEVER going to get charged/lose his job over this????

mattyboy · Post by **mattyboy** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:44 pm

Who cares anyway, if you use a key you run the risk of getting caught. DEAL WITH IT. If you don't want to get caught don't use one. How many of us did extremes for a long time without getting caught. Admittedly this method was the one that baked it up big time lol.

Oli · Post by **Oli** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:44 pm

I'd be suprised if he is using it on old extremes - I doubt there are any left that still work.

While not illegal to use in other cases, its probably not something the police would be too pleased with (I guess it falls under being unethical and the police are supposed to be the ethical example to society).

As long as he doesnt get caught he should be fine. And as you say, even if he does he will just be barred and its unlikely he will have the police called on him. Besides, if he's letting it 'known' that he's a police officer then some pubs may just let him do it, but obv that is also something he shouldn't really be doing.

porkman · Post by **porkman** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:23 pm

I think it's an 'old etxreme'

Called something like:

Down The Drain

Seems to be a plumbing based fruit machine

clarkey1984 · Post by **clarkey1984** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:29 pm

Round the bend, and i dont think the key for a board method works on this, he's probably going for 1's and 12's for the + nudges, plus the bonus setup for boards i imagine, the key will just be to see if its relitavely full or not.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:32 pm

They all worked off the key at one point, you could just put a 5p piece in and it would trail held so no key needed.

mattyboy · Post by **mattyboy** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:27 am

As stated above, all extremes of this era worked with the key including Round the Bend. However as they are long gone it doesn't really matter. Wouldn't be able to get away with the key method in current climate anyway (especially if your on your own lol).

porkman · Post by **porkman** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:35 pm

Yes it is round the bend

And yes the key does work in the machine

And yes there are a few of them around.

This one is in a Fish and Chip shop

clarkey1984 · Post by **clarkey1984** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:10 pm

The key will 'work' in that it will tell you the hopper level, in any fruit, but the extreme key for a board method was chipped out ages ago so i thought, he may have found a worker tho, i guess anythings possible.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:33 pm

These a £5 one that works in KL bowl

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:31 pm

porkman wrote:Yes it is round the bend

And yes the key does work in the machine

And yes there are a few of them around.

This one is in a Fish and Chip shop

You should be on for a free fish supper then, £5 jp could be just as profitable as the £25 version, i had a £5 jailbirds in a bowl, made loads on it during the school hols, used to get pumped by the nippers

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:40 pm

Sharking little kids eh Scott?

porkman · Post by **porkman** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:22 am

clarkey1984 wrote:The key will 'work' in that it will tell you the hopper level, in any fruit, but the extreme key for a board method was chipped out ages ago so i thought, he may have found a worker tho, i guess anythings possible.

Don't know what you mean by a 'worker' - a machine that works????

But yes 100% it worked.

I have been with him twice.

He likes to have someone there to block the view of people (to his keying)

And yes it was (as far as I remember a £25 max win)

But to be less suspicious he was booking loads of smaller wins.

I think he ended up just below £100 each time.

I guess this is an old machine (obv) that the shop has bought, so maybe it was pre fix????

But my friend knew his key would work as soon as he saw the machine. And he used to do this a lot some years ago. Maybe 5 or 6 years ago????

But this was pure chance he saw it, next times he brought the key.

Mr Move It · Post by **Mr Move It** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:32 am

porkman wrote:Don't know what you mean by a 'worker' - a machine that works????

I've not been here long enough to pick up all of the terms, but I think they mean that the machine is in a good mood.

kong · Post by **kong** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:27 am

Mr Move It wrote:
porkman wrote:Don't know what you mean by a 'worker' - a machine that works????
I've not been here long enough to pick up all of the terms, but I think they mean that the machine is in a good mood.

They mean it hasn't been chipped against the specific fault. In this case the fault allows you to use a key to to manipulate the machine into giving more frequent boards than it would otherwise.