The majority of players are living off £70 conversions at the moment. There is very little worth playing which is a post £70 JP release.
Yes Bellfruit (Gamestec) continue to roll out DOND clones but unless the Barcrest group (i.e. Barcrest or RED) release something new on mass (on top of Take it Or Leave It and Goal) then these £70 conversions will remain active for the foreseeable future, simply because the other suppliers have nothing to replace them with.
They can't phase them out without something to replace them with.
3-5 years left at least.
The end is approaching.....
£70's were a bad move for the industry
representative from the government saying the move to £70 was acceptable and someone saying they'd have gone to £100 if asked to save the industry, i wouldnt be suprised if they changed the gambling/gaming bill again in 2011/2012 we're going to see £100/£150 jackpots in pubs within 3-5 years... but they will probably play like clubbers, the liability for players vs customers on a £150 unit would be shocking if they modeled them on current technology.
representative from the government saying the move to £70 was acceptable and someone saying they'd have gone to £100 if asked to save the industry, i wouldnt be suprised if they changed the gambling/gaming bill again in 2011/2012 we're going to see £100/£150 jackpots in pubs within 3-5 years... but they will probably play like clubbers, the liability for players vs customers on a £150 unit would be shocking if they modeled them on current technology.
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it's only harmless fun.Rubbish they just reglass old reds diggers aliens.etc even easier considering the new horizon plus cabs are made for that . The same applies for coins easy to reglass into a dond. Besides which just looking around you see MUCH less playables now than months ago and this trend will just continue. If you really see old coins and reds and diggers still around in 5 years you really are delusional!A1056688 wrote:The majority of players are living off £70 conversions at the moment. There is very little worth playing which is a post £70 JP release.
Yes Bellfruit (Gamestec) continue to roll out DOND clones but unless the Barcrest group (i.e. Barcrest or RED) release something new on mass (on top of Take it Or Leave It and Goal) then these £70 conversions will remain active for the foreseeable future, simply because the other suppliers have nothing to replace them with.
They can't phase them out without something to replace them with.
3-5 years left at least.
Seems you have misunderstood my original post. I am not implying that you will still see the same machines in 3-5 years, I am merely predicting that there is at least 3-5 years left of making decent money. This is simply because whilst to most players there appears to be nothing new in the pipeline at the moment I believe something new worth playing will come out of the closet in the next few months.ob wrote:Rubbish they just reglass old reds diggers aliens.etc even easier considering the new horizon plus cabs are made for that . The same applies for coins easy to reglass into a dond. Besides which just looking around you see MUCH less playables now than months ago and this trend will just continue. If you really see old coins and reds and diggers still around in 5 years you really are delusional!A1056688 wrote:The majority of players are living off £70 conversions at the moment. There is very little worth playing which is a post £70 JP release.
Yes Bellfruit (Gamestec) continue to roll out DOND clones but unless the Barcrest group (i.e. Barcrest or RED) release something new on mass (on top of Take it Or Leave It and Goal) then these £70 conversions will remain active for the foreseeable future, simply because the other suppliers have nothing to replace them with.
They can't phase them out without something to replace them with.
3-5 years left at least.
My other point is that they can't reglass old machines without something to reglass them with! Sceptre and other suppliers don't currently seem to take too many DONDs from Bell Fruit as they like to keep some exclusivity with Gamestec. So until something new is released on mass (e.g. the new Take It or Leave It) then the existing games will remain in play.
Personally I don't play Electrocoins or REDs very often and since the P4 Alien was released they are a waste of time too. There is still plenty of money to be made though.
Maybe something will come out, Im not discounting it, but at the moment its hard to see what, its just clones of deals.A1056688 wrote:Seems you have misunderstood my original post. I am not implying that you will still see the same machines in 3-5 years, I am merely predicting that there is at least 3-5 years left of making decent money. This is simply because whilst to most players there appears to be nothing new in the pipeline at the moment I believe something new worth playing will come out of the closet in the next few months.ob wrote:Rubbish they just reglass old reds diggers aliens.etc even easier considering the new horizon plus cabs are made for that . The same applies for coins easy to reglass into a dond. Besides which just looking around you see MUCH less playables now than months ago and this trend will just continue. If you really see old coins and reds and diggers still around in 5 years you really are delusional!A1056688 wrote:The majority of players are living off £70 conversions at the moment. There is very little worth playing which is a post £70 JP release.
Yes Bellfruit (Gamestec) continue to roll out DOND clones but unless the Barcrest group (i.e. Barcrest or RED) release something new on mass (on top of Take it Or Leave It and Goal) then these £70 conversions will remain active for the foreseeable future, simply because the other suppliers have nothing to replace them with.
They can't phase them out without something to replace them with.
3-5 years left at least.
My other point is that they can't reglass old machines without something to reglass them with! Sceptre and other suppliers don't currently seem to take too many DONDs from Bell Fruit as they like to keep some exclusivity with Gamestec. So until something new is released on mass (e.g. the new Take It or Leave It) then the existing games will remain in play.
Personally I don't play Electrocoins or REDs very often and since the P4 Alien was released they are a waste of time too. There is still plenty of money to be made though.
They regalss old machines with DONDS, sceptre have plenty of DOND's and yes I've seen their lists.... what games are you speaking off here that wont be reglassed... p4 aliens which are shit, diggers are rare as anything
Are you telling me these playables are around in anything like the numbers they were, I check well over 500 pubs in this area, and the numbers now are MUCH MUCH lower....
Ok so you dont play electrocoins or reds, so what are you playing exactly to be making this plenty of money, LG/aliens which are mostly p4, the VERY odd digger that will generally be very covered unless its super middle of nowhere, and even then probably covered... WHAT else are we talking here prey tell... either you know something non mainstream or else your talking shit, I mean everyone knows its shit at the moment, and I'm talking about decent players I know, not just me, although addmitedly I am a lazy bastard.
Yeh AMS 100% chipped (FUCKING WANKERS THIS COMPANY AS SOON AS ANY CHIP COMES OUT ITS BOUGHT!!!! and its some shitty westerham village based group!), SE leisure 80% chipped, gamestec 50/50, petron 80% chipped, sceptre 80% unchipped tbh, RVS 90% unchipped, ivor thomas reportedly p5 (read sir ratholers post), claremont erm they can be p2 even yes... havent had one of theirs chipped, oh here's a mad location for the whole board, penge spoons p2 LG, never boarding tho of course, that's a claremont.Scott wrote:I've still not come across a single P4 Alien or Lep, sounds like i'm very lucky, still got a few on P2
Think that rounds it up for the distributors here