Waiting game

kingzilla · Post by **kingzilla** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:13 am

Looks like the game developers are still waiting to see what happens when the law changes come in with regards to the lack of new games appearing on cabinets. A few of the game houses have already made moves on doing more skill and not chance games.

chemo · Post by **chemo** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:25 am

From the HMRC announcement:

"Quiz games played on a machine can be games of chance if they involve both an element of chance and an element of skill, an element of chance that can be eliminated by superlative skill or are presented as involving an element of chance."

(my bolding)

Is there any game of skill that doesn't have an element of chance? Snooker has kicks and fast cushions, poker has the luck of the draw, football has dodgy refereeing. Players with "superlative skill" can overcome all this to become successful, but the element of chance remains.

Looks like the jig's up.

roberto la vigna · Post by **roberto la vigna** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:02 pm

Maybe 'superlative' skill means world-beating excellence rather than common or garden variation in adeptitude.

carnegie · Post by **carnegie** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:44 am

I am surprised at how many machines are still being sited. Another 8 on to my list this week.

WaterGate · Post by **WaterGate** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:47 am

And you joined to share that suprising knowledge?

carnegie · Post by **carnegie** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:09 am

WaterGate wrote:And you joined to share that suprising knowledge?

No but I would like to know why they are still being sited when they are going to cost operators more in licence fees than they could ever hope to recoup in plays. Any insight?

kingzilla · Post by **kingzilla** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:15 am

carnegie wrote:I am surprised at how many machines are still being sited. Another 8 on to my list this week.

Are these new sites or machines that have been replaced with something different.

WaterGate · Post by **WaterGate** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:12 pm

So your list encompasses the entire of the country then? They could have been moved about from other places. I neither know nor care. I just play the games. Why on earth would you want to know that?

JohnF · Post by **JohnF** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:49 pm

WaterGate wrote:So your list encompasses the entire of the country then? They could have been moved about from other places. I neither know nor care. I just play the games. ?

If you don't know or care why bother replying? To be honest, I just read through 6 months of your "posts" (took me about 8 seconds) and it doesn't appear that you know or care much about anything including quiz machine games.

Why on earth would you want to know that?

I would imagine it's pretty obvious why I wanted to know. I am interested in how the industry is responding to the HMRC announcements i.e. what this thread is about. If they are putting new machines in then it suggests they have some hope for the future, at least.

We have a machine in our club but that isn't really my concern.

Anyway I re registered just to reply to you. It's not exactly the world's most interesting forum, so you're welcome to it.

WaterGate · Post by **WaterGate** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:24 pm

Touche! Ha ha how confusing...

cool · Post by **cool** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:56 pm

John F the new 'Quizmaster'.I hope you continue posting.

kingzilla · Post by **kingzilla** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:32 am

Seeing as you haven't said what these new sighted machines are i would thin they are probably our overspending friends at gwh sighting machines the cannot afford to maintain again.

BigEd · Post by **BigEd** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:42 pm

kingzilla wrote:Seeing as you haven't said what these new sighted machines are i would thin they are probably our overspending friends at gwh sighting machines the cannot afford to maintain again.

Has something gone wrong with your keyboard?

cool · Post by **cool** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:30 pm

com on, it a froot chatt fourum notta spelingg contests

kingzilla · Post by **kingzilla** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:09 am

BigEd wrote:
kingzilla wrote:Seeing as you haven't said what these new sighted machines are i would thin they are probably our overspending friends at gwh sighting machines the cannot afford to maintain again.
Has something gone wrong with your keyboard?

sited sited sited there i think i got it