Question time tonight - Nick Griffin

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milk monitor wrote:Should be interesting. Despite being despised by the political mass, I've never seen this guy come off worse in a debate.
Must have been a first this evening then!
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I have no problem with the BNP expressing their views, it just shows them up as the confused, contradictory crazies that they are.

I understand that people have a problem with the state of the country, immigration policy etc. and I sympathise with certain aspects of these views. But I realise that voting for barely disguised fascists is not the answer.

If I feel the the need to make a protest vote, I will waste mine on the Monster Raving Loony Party or, God forbid, maybe even the Lib Dems...
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There was no way "the invited" audience was representative of the raea as a whole either. The BBC ought to explain.
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milk monitor wrote:
pokerpete wrote:in what way?
Typical red top press one sided discussion on the lowest level.

Like Houston I'm not a racist, but can see the merits in some of the policies. The current UK government is a laughing stock and the strength of the £ reflects confidence in UK PLC.

I read this morning that the official line is that if an imigrant is a tax paying law abiding citizen then they don't have a problem.
the mash is not a "typical redtop" it's a satirical comedy newspaper.
try and keep up.

Go to the BNP website and actualy read their policies. I mean every word.
It just makes absolutely NO sense.
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Pete. If the BBC had asked the correct questions, the BNP would have been exposed as having no worthwhile policies. Instead it was a complete circus, which, instead of trying to impose the BBC's leftist agenda on the UK, has merely backfired on them. Unfortunately more people than ever will be tempted to vote for the BNP, because the mainstream parties seem unable to give a straight answer to a straight question.
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How can anyone stick up at all for this guy? :x

Denying the holocaust and gas chambers, rubbing shoulders with the head of the KKK, saying gay blokes kissing is creepy and homosexuals should stay behind closed doors, calling uk immigration 'delibertae and calculated genocide'....the list just goes on with the BNP.

Modern day nazis. Freedom of speech and all that jazz is fine, but i think the overwhelming feeling of revulsion towards these pigs just shows what this country feels.
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It's easy to drum up support from stupid and uneducated people. That's the demographic that the BNP are targetting.
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harry2 wrote:Pete. If the BBC had asked the correct questions, the BNP would have been exposed as having no worthwhile policies. Instead it was a complete circus, which, instead of trying to impose the BBC's leftist agenda on the UK, has merely backfired on them. Unfortunately more people than ever will be tempted to vote for the BNP, because the mainstream parties seem unable to give a straight answer to a straight question.
The BBC didn't ask the questions.
Dimbleby was the only BBC employee we heard from.
The questions were posed by the public, who dispite the protestations of the sympathisers I do believe was largely representative of the civilised majority.
There were a couple of lads at the back applauding and shouting at the mainstream polititians. about 2% of the audience on his side. sounds about right.
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I agree, but the questions are picked before the show starts. Also 2% of voters is a very large number.
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Dimbleby promised to revisit the repatriation question when it was asked at the beginning but it never happened.

was looking forward to that one.

Those were the questions everyone knew would get asked.
No agenda necessary.

2% of the total votes is what BNP got (no where near getting an actual Westminster seat) and 2% of the audience sounded like they were BNp supporters (ie a coupe of nutters at the back)

seemed fairly balanced in that respect.
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It's a shame that the only right wing party this country has to offer is so extreme - if they were somewhere in the middle of the BNP and the Conservatives then we might actually get a decent party somewhere. This country, as is stands currently, is a laughing stock and it's no pleasure whatsoever to live here.

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Mattb wrote:How can anyone stick up at all for this guy? :x
I'm not sure that anybody has.

Clearly he's an intelligent enough person - but he's a terrible public speaker, and I'm glad he didn't fool anybody last night - and the direction in which he manages to woo his followers is disgraceful. I haven't read his full manifesto but his own delusions seem to overtake him every time he is asked a perfectly reasonable question on his policies and as a result, he comes across as one of the most bigoted men you could ever wish to meet.

He contradicted himself so often last night that even those who were doing their very best to make some sort of sense out of his views were left scratching their heads. I cannot stick up for him in any way - I abhor his views and his willingness to continually incite racial hatred - but I do stick up for his (and anybody's) right to have a view in the first place.
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sir ratholer wrote:It's a shame that the only right wing party this country has to offer is so extreme - if they were somewhere in the middle of the BNP and the Conservatives then we might actually get a decent party somewhere. This country, as is stands currently, is a laughing stock and it's no pleasure whatsoever to live here.

If I could make a good living abroad, I would.

Well said. Now if they had a certain Mrs Thatcher on board, who I'm sure would tone the party down a lot, I think people would take more interest in them.

By the way, this guy is villified for his opinions, though rightly so, yet we can have extremist religious nuts calling for our troops & citizens to be murdered and they get away with it (for many years at least).
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Gay blokes kissing is creepy in my opinion too though.All they did was bring loads ofdiffernt races to stand and slag him which is not the norm on question time
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The whole thing stank of propaganda. I bet if the audience was from the north-west the show would have completely different.
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Nixxy wrote:He contradicted himself so often last night that even those who were doing their very best to make some sort of sense out of his views were left scratching their heads. I cannot stick up for him in any way - I abhor his views and his willingness to continually incite racial hatred - but I do stick up for his (and anybody's) right to have a view in the first place.
Well said.
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