changing holds

novice_27 · Post by **novice_27** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:55 pm

Can someone please pm me & explain this to me, does it only work on m/c have a 5 line win on them?.

HorseRacingKing · Post by **HorseRacingKing** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:10 pm

you can only change holds if the machine has 5p credit in it

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:36 pm

Have i missed summat?

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:46 pm

Think the old JPM's Betch, hold swapping, i'm sure Caesars (Ace) did it too.

If this is'nt what he's referring too then god knows?

mouse75 · Post by **mouse75** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:29 pm

Plus a number of Barcrest machines would swap such as Spiker, some new mazoomas do it as well - Monopoly RTR did it for me with two JP's on top line

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:45 pm

and bgt's like reel appeal and ding dong bells.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:28 pm

and a couple of deal or no deals, and all reds and billy the quid and all clones and a hell of a lot of other machines..

say you're holding two reels, for a cherry win...
1st hold does nothing,
second hold does nothing
3rd hold would spin in the other cherry,

but if after the second spin of the reels, there are two symbols for a higher win or feature entry in line that only need one fruit or feature symbol or number to get a better feature/win.. hold them instead... ie "hold swapping" some machines will continue the 3rd hold winning spin and spin in the win you hold for last

anyone with locations for hi lo watha or royal family? lol

Shaggerty · Post by **Shaggerty** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:10 pm

Even if it says 'Hold Again/Hold These Reels'?

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:34 pm

yup ,,,,,,,,,, best machines for this by far were ,,,,

hot shot
red alert
impulse

all chip ones of course ,,,,,,,,,,,, b4 they meddled with em

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:40 pm

Extreme Eddie wrote:Think the old JPM's Betch, hold swapping, i'm sure Caesars (Ace) did it too.

If this is'nt what he's referring too then god knows?

Caesars didn't cross hold. Hot shot did, one of the reasons they were better than Caesars. Cash Up, and the JPM pinball themed version of Caesars/Hotshot also cross holded.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:44 pm

Fair enough, must be Hot Shot i was thinking of. Could have swore blind Caesars did it too, it's been a while so could be wrong, they did do an early version of number runner though, nudge steppa if i remember correctly.

flashback · Post by **flashback** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:48 pm

Caesars could do it, just had to have had fair few jackpots in it beforehand.. Hotshot was 1000% more generous with them. Impulse was always good I found, Red Alerts were either lots of holds or no holds, obviously was more than one program on these. Much of the JPM program code regarding holds seems to be present in Reds right up to the current day.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:53 pm

I had a tremendous red alert back in the day, battered it no end of times, used to get several firemans lifts on it before it would stop numbering, and was brilliant for the repeat.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:56 pm

twas possible on a ceasers but was that rare you didn't purposely play it that way for em , it was essential on red alert impulse , hotshot.

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:00 pm

I've never had a caesars cross hold, but thats not to say that they couldn't, but hot shots were great for it. And you are spot on about the early red alert/impulse, they used to love holding, while later versions didn't. Number runner was present in JPM games such as Camelot, Wizard of odds etc, and the earliest Nudge Steppa was on Big 50 if memory serves. Yes early Reds crossed, you are absolutely right, I think JPM's programmers must have moved onto Red Gaming.... certain traits were there....

Ah, Viva the old days eh?