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GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:09 pm

Martal~Wombat wrote:I personally don't care, like most of the replies on here, it is a dog eat dog world out there, unless i know the person then thats a different matter, you don't fuck your mates over, i remember once, i had just destroyed leicester city centre a few years back, and was walking into leicester train station (i was off to Brum) and seen some lad that was from Skeggy just coming in, he wasn't a mate but i knew his boatrace and he knew mine, i actually put my cap over my eyes and had a little grin about the trail of destruction he was walking into
ITS DOG EAT DOG
and thats the way it is

Waiting for trayhop to comment about this, wonder if his views are different as you 2 are mates!

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:29 pm

you know my views are completely different .

if i could stop any fellow pro losing money , i will

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:27 pm

trayhop123 wrote:there's just hasn't been one reply from anyone ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that says '' lee you should have gone back in'' or '' it would have been the right thing to do'' etc

if 20 joe munters all lose a 5ver in a bandit ,,,,,,,,so i can make 50 quid,,,, then thats fine ,,,,,,,,,,,,, its the nature of the game etc

but if one man loses 100 ,,,,,,,,, its not nice ,,,,,,,,,, we've all been there ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and if i can prevent it , i will.

seems greed has gotten the better of many of you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, seems a lot of you have lost your way , ,,,,,,,, where are the values your parents tried to install in you as kids ,,,,,, politeness , compassion , courtesy etc.

when i was at the cinema with my two young teen niece's ,,,,,,,,,,,,, the man in front of us moby had fell out his coat pocket un-noticed ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, my niece's wanted to keep it ,,,, i gave it him back ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and i hope one day somebody would do the same for me.

theres ample money to go round , without purposely doing things just before float day , to purposely fuck someone over .

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, its probably me that needs to wake up and smell the coffee ,,,,,,,,,,, it is a harsh dog eat dog world ,,,,,,, but it doesn't have to be.

what happened to simply being,,,, kind?

So would you say greed has got the best of martin? he must of lost his ways doing something like this surely?

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:33 pm

this was a pretty unique situation ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, usually you know within a few seconds if the other person is a player etc ,,,,,,,, we had to make a split decision ,,,,,,,,,,,,, and in my opinion ,,,, we made the wrong one.

and no ,,,,,, martin is one of the kindest thoughtful people you could meet. ,,,,,,,,,, i cant comment on the lad from skeg ,,,,,,,,,,, dont know him ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, maybe they have a history .

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:36 pm

I'd imagine that Martin was probably just looking out for his own best interests, in thinking that, if he keeps his home town dead it will prevent outsiders from muscling in and put them off a return visit.

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:25 pm

Surely thats worse than doing stuff before float day, which i obviously do for the reason scott has just said so players find it dead/do brains and wont come back etc etc

You seemed to have changed your attitude about it a bit as its someone you know eh??

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:27 pm

i haven't changed my attitude .

if it was me in the train station scenario ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i would have tipped the player off that i had done everything (and left it up to him if he wanted to pursue it still or not?)

im not martins keeper ,,,,,,,,,, i dont know the in's n out's of that scenario ,,,,,,,,,, like i said maybe they had a history ,,?????? ,,,,,,,,,,,we will have to wait for him to comment . ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

but from 20 years + of knowing him ,,,,,,,,,, i can say he's the most trust worthy person i know.

but i know thats not the issue were talking about.

were asking the question ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, would you deliberately fuck a fellow player over ? ,,,,,,,,,,,, to the point of being a cunt. ,,,,,,,,,,,,, to which martin wouldn't ,,,,,,,, he hasn't got an ounce of malicious in him.

Martal~Wombat · Post by **Martal~Wombat** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:35 pm

trayhop123 wrote:
if i could stop any fellow pro losing money , i will

fellow pro? If its a mate, its different
I don't believe many fellow pro's would give the time of day to worry about your pockets, i certainly don't unless its someone i know, i've been to places all round the coasts, and its cut-throat, if you stay with that routine, you wouldn't get on very well.
(but you'd probably have stacks of friends though

)

maverick69 · Post by **maverick69** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:11 pm

Coastal towns are on top as fuck...every player likes a coastal day out.

toothless11 · Post by **toothless11** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:03 pm

At the end of the day tray, you beat him to the machine. I don't praticuarly like the idea of other people losing on machines but it's part of the game. Everyone loses here and now.

And let's be fair, he should be able to see the tell tell signs, or at least realised that you 2 could of been potential players and played it safe. Shame on him if he forced it out from dead knowing that there was a chance you guys could of done it.

The way I always see things is, your in, make your dough and then your out and off to the next hit. Maybe next time he will try and get there before you, or do it the night before and you might be the unlucky ones to play it the next day.

Don't Get hung up about it. You made your dough so that's all the mattered right??

xhopz · Post by **xhopz** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:17 pm

he could of keyed it.

He could of followed them out and spoke to them.

He could of asked people in the bar had the two lads just dropped it.

The guy had plenty of 'outs' so to speak yet chose to take it on regardless.

Personally i wouldn't put a pound in one of these before i had keyed it up and i don't know many players who would??

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:43 pm

your right toothless n xhops

im over the guilt trip ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, after we left ,,,,,,,,, he may have left it ,,,,,,,,,,,, (doubt it though , after 30-40 in , you feel committed )

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:46 pm

plus ,,,,,,,,,,, i would have felt more guilty if it was a regular off here .

but i suppose that would have been shame on you if you clocked the superman jacket and didn't join the dots :P

toothless11 · Post by **toothless11** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:04 pm

Lol. Fuck playing any fruit after seing a bloke wearing a superman coat play it!! :-)

Martal~Wombat · Post by **Martal~Wombat** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:31 pm