FOBT roulette is rigged (again)

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:16 pm

100% rigged pmk m8

17,4,17,17

explain that

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:24 pm

Fucking hell, when will people understand that roulette doesn't need to be rigged, its set up nicely in the houses favour.

If you win you are lucky.

If you lose you simply have experienced the most likely outcome. You can never expect to win at roulette. I always expect to lose, so when Ido occasionally win its a nice surprise.

While its highly unlikely that you will see multiple repeats on numbers it does happen, because of the random nature its bound to occur at some point.

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:28 pm

I'm not singling you out there by the way, trayhop.

Its just my belief that they aren't bent in any way.

pager · Post by **pager** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:31 pm

Agreed they don't need to be rigged/fixed.BUT,where there is money in this world there is greed.An extra few % here and there in favour of the fobt will make alot over the longrun.
I'm on the fence on this one.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon May 31, 2010 6:08 pm

of course they dont need to be rigged ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but they are

all of you that are saying their not rigged ,,,,,,,,,,,,, please have a go at a lenthy constructive explanation of the ,,,,,,,,,,, '' every day occurrence of ,,,,, for example 12, 37,12,8,12, 12, 4, 35, ''

"at some point'' rich m8 ?
which is rare as rocking horse shit on a regular wheel.
but every lenthy fobt sesh ,,,,,,,, regularity
dont just say their not rigged , without explaining please.

ming · Post by **ming** » Mon May 31, 2010 6:28 pm

how about when i saw someone bet on every street except the lower 2 and the next numbers came out '1,2,3,4,5,6' in a row.

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Mon May 31, 2010 6:51 pm

trayhop123 wrote:of course they dont need to be rigged ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but they are

all of you that are saying their not rigged ,,,,,,,,,,,,, please have a go at a lenthy constructive explanation of the ,,,,,,,,,,, '' every day occurrence of ,,,,, for example 12, 37,12,8,12, 12, 4, 35, ''

"at some point'' rich m8 ?
which is rare as rocking horse shit on a regular wheel.
but every lenthy fobt sesh ,,,,,,,, regularity
dont just say their not rigged , without explaining please.

I take it all back. If a roulette machine managed to spin number 37 then its definitely rigged.

I'm not saying they aren't rigged, its just my opinion that they aren't. Nobody has any credible evidence to suggest they are bent, everyone has differing opinions.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon May 31, 2010 7:10 pm

i through the 37 in ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, was waiting for someone to spot it ,,,,,,, well done rich m8 .

so will anybody have a credible crack at the explanation ?????

keno · Post by **keno** » Mon May 31, 2010 10:04 pm

Rigged or not rigged?

Not rigged.

Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! · Mon May 31, 2010 10:56 pm

Rigged or not, I think it's up to the individual whether he plays them or not.

I did see someone play one, leaving out only 16 & 19 . . .

Four spins: 19 . . . 19 . . . 19 . . . 16!

Now Lucky 8 on the other hand . . .

JG · Post by JG » Mon May 31, 2010 11:17 pm

Lee where all you getting all this anecdotal evidence of strings of repeating numbers from? The last place I'd expect to see Captain Discipline is inside a licenced betting office in front of a fixed odds betting terminal.
I take it that your feed is a small annoying ****, can't say that on here, else we'll get the PC brigade on and before we know it, we'll be on about those bloody planes again.
If you up your odds to 20,000-1 then I might pop a few pennies your way next time I'm in Leicester on the off chance I drop a sneaky £200.

The logical explanation as to seeing 'unusual' numbers is that there are more spins per minute than in a casino. On any one terminal I can instantly access about 6 different histories for various roulette games.

Roulette/pure gambling is something of a mindf*** in itself. You'll always see some patterns expressed more vividly than others.
"I knew as soon as I started betting even it'd start doing odds"

I'd imagine they are either
a) Truly random
b) There is a 'hidden' non graphical extra 0 (or two!) that when selected will go on to display the worst possible number from 0-36 depending on what has been bet.

Given the amount of moaning re: odds on betting, such as covering 35 numbers to get a probable small profit or rare big loss, given the amount of moaning and pointing out of such events, it's a possibility that b) is in place. If they were going to rig it. That's how they'd do it

I don't think there is any complex compensation going on. To be honest I'm inclined to think a) with a small hint of b).

Cheers,

JG

griff50 · Post by **griff50** » Mon May 31, 2010 11:42 pm

Tray, as for number chasing, I wouldn't ever cover more than 5 numbers. Usually when I have time to kill, I go 80p on 27, 20p each neighbours. Not huge gambling, but good fun to pass the time. This way I have enough of an inclination to climb in bets without going skint in 10 spins! A sort of longwinded martingale but not doubling, just keeping a bearing on how much I have spent / won. i believe people who don't have PATIENCE make very bad roulette playerds!

I think in all number sequences you can always pick out patterns that actually mean nothing. It is a computer picking the numbers not a wheel, therefore when I'm chasing 27, 6 and 13 are never 'NEAR' to 27.

I've actually seen 3 17's in a row at leicester gala, blue table about 2 years ago. Now if someone had that on a fobt and didn't have money on it, they would scream 'rigged!' This time a guy had quite a few quid on it!!

Just to re-iterate the sequences that we see are only exerts from the true sequence, and as it is impossible to ever map the full sequence, and then possibly work out the step which creates the random number, we will never know how the numbers are exactly generated.

The only way to get a glimpse of the full sequence is to have people in about 10 betting shops all press the button a second after eacch other, linked by phone, then record this and go from there.

No worries about the pineapple comment by the way.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:16 am

Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! wrote:Rigged or not, I think it's up to the individual whether he plays them or not.

I did see someone play one, leaving out only 16 & 19 . . .

Four spins: 19 . . . 19 . . . 19 . . . 16!

Now Lucky 8 on the other hand . . .

on lucky 8, my bets would be........

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:16 am

if anyone wants to meet up in sheffield, ill show you my never ending roulette streak

ob · Post by ob » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:57 am

Shows how naive most gamblers are to think the following:

a) that fobt are not random... they are...
b) that "strange" number patterns are more prevelant on these than real roulette..

a) roulette makes huge money whether rigged or not so why rig it, people invariably do not get off with profit they feed it back through therefore surrendering to the house edge.

b) you see loads more patterns on fobt, as you see so many more SPINS on them than real roulette that takes ages to spin etc.!

Why would there be number patterns even if they were rigged... if there was any predictability, they could be exploited, so this is clealy not going to be the case!

As I've truthfully said before, Ive certainly got more than 100% payout from them, and I rarely play them, Ive seen people cover every number but one and it come up twice in a row AND I've seen people cover 1 number and it come up twice in a row... THATS RANDOMNESS for u folks... I've even had myself £13 on 9, first spin come up for the £500!

End of the day roulette is just a gamble, its not in your favour, it aint rigged but it's gonna lose u money long run probably, wherever u play it, be it bookies or casino, unless ur a spawny bastard. I think people are prone to just blaming losses on things being rigged, than just the fact its a poor odds against gamble, which you shouldn't really be doing in the first place!!!!