AWP disguised as a paragon

Discuss Quiz Machines here..
User avatar
grecian
Senior Member
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 11:03 am
Location: Near London

Post by grecian »

ROSSKEEN wrote: My bad. Instructions are there for a reason. (makes you less of a man if you read them though, put those instructions away princess, its only a bloody bookshelve - managed it with 4 pieces to spare).


(puffs out chest, hides little belly, and feels damn proud).
<snorts with laugher>

Enjoyed that Ross - thanks! My wife never reads instructions, and I always do - not sure what that says about us.
ROSSKEEN
Senior Member
Posts: 438
Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:42 pm
Location: edinburgh

Post by ROSSKEEN »

Shelf update: It's still standing ,Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! (Thanks Elton).

And when you give it a push it has the cool talking point of going from II to //.
User avatar
Istenem
Senior Member
Posts: 5918
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:42 pm
Location: the nation's capital
Contact:

Post by Istenem »

looks like the AWP have been dropped from the main paragon update, astonishingly they still seem to have the doubled double bug.
nobody ever wins on those things.
dmac
Senior Member
Posts: 344
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:03 am
Location: ...

Re: AWP disguised as a paragon

Post by dmac »

xyz
User avatar
Nil Satis
Senior Member
Posts: 1497
Joined: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:55 pm
Location: South East

Re: AWP disguised as a paragon

Post by Nil Satis »

dmac wrote:I had a couple of shots of Jiggy Bank on a test itbox at the weekend - it was £1 stake for £50 JP. Not that I got anywhere close, or even to the end game. What sort of target is achievable? It was at about 3500
I'd say 3500 was the sort of target you'd want to see if you are deciding whether to give the game a good Jiggy. I've seen it as low as 2800 and as high as 5200. As with Deal or No Deal the total isn't always a guide as to the level of prizes in the end game but what I do like about the game is that the overall level of the prizes on offer seems to be a very good guide to the total prize you will get, by which I mean that if there are say 15 nice prizes and 5 duff ones you will usually get two or more of the good prizes, unlike some other games I could mention...

You may need a little more practice on this one or it's possible of course that the ItBox version will simply be a lot tougher than the Gamesnet version. I'd hope not - I like the principle of £1 games as long as there is a recognisable increase in possible prizes to accompany the doubling of your stake.
User avatar
Istenem
Senior Member
Posts: 5918
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:42 pm
Location: the nation's capital
Contact:

Post by Istenem »

i've still not seen a jiggy bank so can't comment. but, on the £1 stake, like most of the people who read here, i welcome it but more casual punters may be wary to punt a pound coin against a completely new game.
equally, as a gentleman amateur, learning the nuances within a game is twice as expensive qed and if there are no other redeeming features within design, gameplay, sfx etc. i would probably sack it off fairly soon. i'd say there needs to be some transpareny, i guess the £50 JP goes some way towards this end.
nobody ever wins on those things.
ob
Senior Member
Posts: 3275
Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:04 pm

Post by ob »

that skill 6 shooter must be on way more than 30%, I mean it takes money faster than a £500! It does say on £1 payout you get a higher payout... who knows what this is though.... played one today £10 for the men, 4 spins £12.... not bad...
User avatar
Nixxy
Senior Member
Posts: 2624
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:52 am
Location: London

Post by Nixxy »

ob wrote:that skill 6 shooter must be on way more than 30%, I mean it takes money faster than a £500! It does say on £1 payout you get a higher payout... who knows what this is though.... played one today £10 for the men, 4 spins £12.... not bad...
I gave one a go in Guildford the other day and blew £30 in no time; eventually getting 5 spins which paid around £20. Christ knows how it works; I'm getting a bit concerned about the number of games on SWPs purporting to be 'True Skill'.
This machine may at times offer a choice where the player has every chance of bankruptcy
User avatar
Istenem
Senior Member
Posts: 5918
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:42 pm
Location: the nation's capital
Contact:

Post by Istenem »

i got three JPs (all £10) from three different games on three different machines today (i tend to only play paragons) : PMP, GW? and a flukey WU tenner. for me this is a rarity. and the free money from japseye, 7/8 etc. cushioned it to a decent profit.

i also went to a twitbox pub and only broke even. far be it from me to suggest that one is more playable than the other, but, for this one klutz i know what i'd rather play.

make of this what you will. my reading is that freer money is being put through games which are enjoyable.
nobody ever wins on those things.
User avatar
grecian
Senior Member
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 11:03 am
Location: Near London

Post by grecian »

What is GW? Istenem? I can never keep up with these acronyms!

Well done on the series of wins. I think what it goes to show is that we all specialise on different cabinets. For me I'd probably rank Paragon as 3rd or 4th out of the big 4 at the moment - and certainly I wouldn't be capable of JPing stuff like Pints Make Prizes.
User avatar
Istenem
Senior Member
Posts: 5918
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:42 pm
Location: the nation's capital
Contact:

Post by Istenem »

guess who? as Q&A games go that has to be one of the very easiest, if i can make it work anyone else reading this can too.

when i'm out my choice of pubs is about 60/40 for beer/SWP. for some reason pubs near me with the itbox tend to serve a foul pint so i don't play them so often. maybe something to do with publicans in chains not giving a tinker's cuss/ changing so often and smaller pubs/ independents where they do care going for the cheaper market option. (i'm assuming hosting a paragon/ind:e/open/gamesnet) is cheaper than hosting a twitbox.

nb Cool i tend to agree, when i'm writing for publication i do so properly but everyone has irritations, i wince at hyphens used as punctuation because people don't know which colon to use and erroneous exclamation marks. there was one on the front page of a certain "quality" national last week !
nobody ever wins on those things.
Barry Trotter
Senior Member
Posts: 296
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:43 pm

Post by Barry Trotter »

I too decided to give one of these six shooter jobbies a go - £20 in on £1 play, hit the mens heads three times. Got POT once, where a big reel appears and slows down till it awards you one of the pots - got silver for £25.61 (which it thankfully rounded up to £26 rather than putting an odd 61p in the bank!), 4 spins (for £12) and 1 spin (£6) so £48 out. £28 quid up. No way this is on an SWP percentage - but then with speed of play it could afford to be on AWP percentage. Hope it is. Will give it another go in a few days.
6502
Senior Member
Posts: 317
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:23 am

Post by 6502 »

Played that Skill 6 shooter thing about 2 weeks ago,
1st 50p spin - managed to stop it on 3 symbols and it gave me 2 spins on the 'awp' type reels
1st spin 5 winlines all @ £3
2nd spin 2 winlines @ £2
Banked the £19 and collected :D
Then the game just vanished from the menu and has not appeared since!!

But my question is - how can the prize part of the game be skill - you press the button to start the spin and the machine decides where and when the reels stop - exactly like an awp - surely this is a blatant flouting of the regs as it comes down to 'chance' thereby it would be legally classed as a 'gaming machine' and subject to all the restrictions ?
ob
Senior Member
Posts: 3275
Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:04 pm

Post by ob »

6502 wrote:Played that Skill 6 shooter thing about 2 weeks ago,
1st 50p spin - managed to stop it on 3 symbols and it gave me 2 spins on the 'awp' type reels
1st spin 5 winlines all @ £3
2nd spin 2 winlines @ £2
Banked the £19 and collected :D
Then the game just vanished from the menu and has not appeared since!!

But my question is - how can the prize part of the game be skill - you press the button to start the spin and the machine decides where and when the reels stop - exactly like an awp - surely this is a blatant flouting of the regs as it comes down to 'chance' thereby it would be legally classed as a 'gaming machine' and subject to all the restrictions ?
the bit where u stop the men is skill to an extent, but where you can't see the reels as they are going so fast its basicallly down to luck as to where they stop. The reel that goes slow is easy to "skill" hit if you notice.

As for the game in general, it's pretty poor, often hard to get a couple of spins that are £4-8, pots rare..
User avatar
Nixxy
Senior Member
Posts: 2624
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:52 am
Location: London

Post by Nixxy »

On very rare occasions, you'll hit 'Stop' and two of the reels will stop and the third will stop after what you might call a 'one second delay'. Thereby giving the game away that there's no skill to it whatsoever.

And how often do you get the three symbols in the window, thinking you've won something, only for it to award 'Free Game' - ie. no prize whatsoever! The chance to do what you've already done - stop the three symbols in view. Great reward.
This machine may at times offer a choice where the player has every chance of bankruptcy
Locked