half hour empty

paulpark · Post by **paulpark** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:33 pm

i dont usually play these quiz machines apart from the odd quid now and again but yesterday 2 blokes apparently walked in my local an emptied the machine, i was puzzeled when told was un sure if there may be some emptier doing the rounds but doubted it, cant remember which type of machine it was but i will find out later,

swych · Post by **swych** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:06 pm

went into my local club the other day and a couple of guys took quite a bit out of the quizzer, which in itself is a bit unusual as it only pays the £20 every now and then. saw someone else win £5 later on and it didnt have enough to pay out!!
must be something going round

donttellhimpike · Post by **donttellhimpike** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:11 pm

three things to remember here;

1) one person's view of "emptying" is often another's view of a medium sized win.

2) the machine may have had very little inside it anyway, due to previous wins or engineer error.

3) there may have been no win at all. viz a recent experience of mine when trying to collect a fair sized itbox result and receiving that wonderful window that informs, "hopper is empty and owes you £XX".

cheers for now,

pike

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:39 pm

Interesting tales from the opening posters. Any more detail on which machines were involved and roughly how much was one would be interesting. paulpark, where are you based geographically?

paulpark · Post by **paulpark** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:12 am

manchester, the machine is one of them paragon machines which replaced an it box pretty recently, by all accounts the machine was full before they went onit and when they left it with a tenner credit on the board and empty, now he mentioned something about them using a key, obviously if so its not a standard refill key because they dont fit it,im :P gonna see if the cctv on it can shed any light..if its that easy i wouldnt mind knowing as half the network wouldnt i imagine :P

paulpark · Post by **paulpark** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:14 am

the only other thing i can think of is maybe its a notechanger scam

paulpark · Post by **paulpark** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:35 am

just been reading the threads on here and the machine is one of them open ones same as the fat spanner one posted

swych · Post by **swych** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:53 pm

the one in our club is gamestech and does not have a note changer.
out of interest what are people using to rip ote changers off as there are no machines in my area that have them any more

psxcity · Post by **psxcity** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:02 pm

obviously if so its not a standard refill key because they dont fit it

hmm they do but to get into refill/collector mode a door must be open

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:04 pm

i doubt that anyone who reads this has any tendency towards theft but, from what i hear, it was a hugely sophisticated method involving folding a note before putting it in the machine. it would credit £20 and give the note back.

[read] hardware failure.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:08 am

Istenem wrote:i doubt that anyone who reads this has any tendency towards theft but, from what i hear, it was a hugely sophisticated method involving folding a note before putting it in the machine. it would credit £20 and give the note back.

[read] hardware failure.

Well, I hope it doesn't work any more Istenem, otherwise I'd suggest your post should be deleted. (Incredible that such a basic trick worked - doesn't change the fact it's theft though, and depriving decent players of taking that money out through fair, skilled means.

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:27 am

i'd suggest it is common knowledge, i try to keep my ear to the ground but if i have heard about it then the industry must have too.

mind you, the fiasco with S16s and £2 coins went on for longer than it should have.

grecian · Post by **grecian** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:05 am

Istenem wrote:i'd suggest it is common knowledge, i try to keep my ear to the ground but if i have heard about it then the industry must have too.

mind you, the fiasco with S16s and £2 coins went on for longer than it should have.

Not common knowledge to me! What was "the fiascos with S16s and £2 coins"? (I'm not even sure what S16s are, so bear with me...)

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:15 am

S16 are those £500 slots in arcades. (i go in those places to change coins up, or notes

) but they are now replaced by B3 because of legislation. anyway.

there was a scam a while back where you could put in a £2 and 2x10p then collect £2 and still have £2.20 credit. as frauds go it was pretty sluggish.

on the subject, and if you have some time to kill, this makes an interesting read.

http://www.ethicalhacker.net/content/view/22/2/

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:52 am

Spoke to 2 guys from pompey the other day who had an empty for some kind of quiz machine, propably involves some kind of tool though.