Reflex Gaming

PMK · Post by **PMK** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:09 am

Anyone else played these new rather stiff profile machines from reflex?? Cant for the life of me remember the name of the one I played last night, but its based on Grandslam, where by you get wins on the bottom and then gamble then on the top reels at a max of £2 a spin??

First board went to £20+ so decided to get stuck in as I remembered older reflex profiles could go a little bit loopy from pots, gave it a quick key it was £190 off but the changer was still on!!

Anyway, bout £70 in for a jackpot which repeated to £210!!! It payed it all out as well so these must have large hoppers!!

And even more strangely, it was in a pub!!!

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:16 am

This the one ?

Thanks to Bazpeep for the pic.

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:27 am

seen a few of those this week!

Mystery_Plum · Post by **Mystery_Plum** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:50 am

Reminds me of Reel Money just by looking at it, a JPM game from 1997 in the same cabinet as Roller Coaster.

£210 repeat on the jackpot? That's a bit naughty really. The new regs state 3 repeats maximum (£140 total).

Tut tut.

PMK · Post by **PMK** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:19 am

Yeah thats the one mate, wonder what the hopper level is???

£140 max? Since when? GGG/Monops often go WAY past that.

Mystery_Plum · Post by **Mystery_Plum** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:55 pm

Those are legacy machines (they came in before the new Gambling Act), like Project's Find the Lady, which can repeat 9 or 10 times on the jackpot. Any Cat C machine made after Sept 1st 2007 (when the new Gambling Act came in) must allow no more than a maximum of 3 repeats on the jackpot. Reflex are either taking the piss, or they have found a way round the regs.

Or this machine is a legacy machine.

PMK · Post by **PMK** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:15 pm

Well I never!!

Are these legacy machines allowed in pubs then? I just presumed it was a standard kind of lo-tec if you like. Although weird having that type of machine in said environment.

Mystery_Plum · Post by **Mystery_Plum** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:37 pm

Any Cat C game is allowed in a pub. Under the new Act, any Cat C game made before September 2007 is classed as a 'legacy' machine, as it may have stuff in it that abides by the old Act, but is non-compliant with the new Act. Half the games you see in most service stations (old DONDs, non-Horizon cab Barcrests, anything on £25 jackpot) are all 'legacy' machines.

Now though, all new games must comply with the new Act (1.5 second minimum game time, maximum of three repeats on a jackpot, GamCare disclaimers and so on).

That game is a strange one to have in a pub, but as long as it takes money then the more the merrier

If it's an old 'legacy' machine then it's OK. But if it's a new game (post September 2007) then it must comply with the latest Gambling Act regulations, meaning that £210 repeat is 'against the spirit of the Act'. Mind you, I wouldn't be complaining

Naughty Reflex

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ob · Post by ob » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:39 pm

cost me £150+ for a jp and repeated once, general gameplay was awful, ie. it goes to £25-30 for ages and ages then keeps going to £0, and then when you eventually get it all it did was spin in £8 and do bonus cash to £35.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:22 pm

Looks a lot like JPM club red hot 6 etc to me. Never saw the appeal myself, but there you go.

PMK · Post by **PMK** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:13 pm

Mystery_Plum wrote:.

Now though, all new games must comply with the new Act (1.5 second minimum game time, maximum of three repeats on a jackpot, GamCare disclaimers and so on).

1.5 seconds - That must be why the newer reds take longer on Mega spin. Its painfully slow.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:24 pm

Mega Spins - slow. I found that if you tap the start button gently but reasonably fast, it speeds them up to 'almost' the old style. Only sometimes, and only on some machines it seems.

Agree though, painfully slow sometimes...

Max · Post by **Max** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:10 pm

In reply to Red Hot 6...I play this every couple of weeks in my local Rileys. This is a club machine by the way. Its not bad, and I usually make around £20 out of it, but have got stung once for £80ish.

These are quite easy to read, if u see someone put £20 in for no return, I'd say there was a quick steal there most of the time. And also this supports a type of swap-hold on your third hold (on the top reels). Doubt this is sensitive, but you can swap your holds, obviuosly on a £250 machine this can be quite good. BUT sometimes it will let you hold just one reel and spin in the maximum possible win. When its not in quite so genreous a mood then it will 'override' which hold you have selected, and spin in what the 3rd hold would have naturally have given you. If that makes sense.

Anyone trid this on the new one?

max

fightstar · Post by **fightstar** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:04 am

Have this machine near me, boring as fuck to play coats loads to get any win, then it never spins in wins up top bit anyway

Dunhamzzz · Post by **Dunhamzzz** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:47 am

Got this. Only dared to forced twice 35 + 70 both cost less than that.

I will surely force if full for the huuuuuuuge repeat