Cash Attack

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:55 am

1st pound in 1 yesterday gambled to 1 off top offered £30 lost gamble chased it thru got 2 mega streaks 1 for 35 and the other gave 69 and stopped when my bank hit 100 coincidence or not any one know?

ob · Post by ob » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:10 pm

hmmm I'm really not all that convinced by this machine as you guys seem to be...

It's certainly better than cash in the box by a mile, but it seems to play rather randomly, hence it's difficult to know whether its worth taking on, i.e. I have had it lose 35-mega streak on a 2, then go dead for the next £50 before giving a flat £35, wasn't up to much after and ended up reforcing which ended up about money back.

Have had a mixed bag of results on it in terms of profit/loss (most times were forces), a few good profits, a few big(ish) hits (£40-60 range)

Another annoying thing about it, is that the boards can cost £15+, which means checking if it is "happy" is costly, and even if its not, its rather difficult to tell whether its happy, as the board plays so randomly - its one of those - if full just play it out scenarios. One thing I have noticed is if the board gives bonus's its a good board, else its usually not!

Took the death or glory loads of times, its reasonable, often gives £10-20 features, never had a JP feature.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:34 pm

Agree there OB, the board costs can be horrendous - was getting nervous yesterday, after my first £20 in (which offered a good few boards) it went dead for the next £15 or so. It doesn't even like giving the bonuses very much - I guess that's because they all get you at least a nudge?

I don't rate it as anything worth going out the way to play, but at least it's something a bit different.

Would definitely be worth getting a full feature list with average pay-out amounts and such.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:52 pm

I got a Toggle features off a death or glory the other day....may have been pay rise? I got a tenner whih wasn't bad.

I will agree it can be random in that you can get a £16-£20 board followed by a dead 2nd hit board. They have to mix them up though i guess, otherwise it would be too obvious it was going to pay. same as BB/BTQ which do random £5 block board when flying. They key is the nudge wins i think. It only offers the bottom 3 wins from nudges when not playing too well, and £4.80+ when its cooked up.

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:02 pm

i think there busy when you get nudges cos after 2 ms yesterday couldnt even get a win for love nor money so ithink nudges could be the sign

ob · Post by ob » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:56 pm

Mattb wrote:I got a Toggle features off a death or glory the other day....may have been pay rise? I got a tenner whih wasn't bad.

I will agree it can be random in that you can get a £16-£20 board followed by a dead 2nd hit board. They have to mix them up though i guess, otherwise it would be too obvious it was going to pay. same as BB/BTQ which do random £5 block board when flying. They key is the nudge wins i think. It only offers the bottom 3 wins from nudges when not playing too well, and £4.80+ when its cooked up.

What I'm saying is it can do a £20-35 board which loses then go dead for £30+, this is alot different to saying a machine can do 1/2 dead boards after a £30 offering. I've had £8 on nudge wins plenty when they have been miles of the mega, so I doubt your theory on nudge wins is a great sign of MS readiness.

Mixing it up is another way of just saying RANDOM - which is not a good thing!

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:20 am

I agree with OB. Had my 1st force of this over the weekend. £4.80 nudge win 1st board and got a LES for £8 after £20 in. £30 in I got to the last square before MS and died & it then took around £40 off me without getting above £6. it eventually cost £100 to get a £90 MS. It then took £12 to get the next board which gave £20 off nudges on a 1 for £30 to actually give me some profit. I just didn't get any real feel of progression.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:05 am

Are you ever happy with any machines ob :P

If it takes that long just rechase the bugger. I don't agree that if its offering £8 nudge wins its miles off - if its going to take a bit longer to go in, it'll more than likely roll bigger. Thyey don't offer more than green bars when dead - fact - so any nudge wins above that mean there is some juice in them. Gaz - you made profit yet still moan?! Like i said before, compare it to OTB wheree you would have probably lost £50, and its infinitely better!

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:28 am

Didn't mean to sound like I was moaning. Just my observation of it. It certainly is a better machine than OTB, and if i'm in a pub with it in I will play it but i'm not going to be going out of my way for 1 on the back of that.
The main problem being, I won £8 the landlord thinks I emptied the thing. A couple of sessions like that and we'll be getting barred for winning hardly anything.

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:32 pm

forgot to add that if i wouldve took the first £30 i wouldve made exactly the same profit but it killed half an hour i suppose

ob · Post by ob » Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:44 pm

Mattb wrote:Are you ever happy with any machines ob :P

If it takes that long just rechase the bugger. I don't agree that if its offering £8 nudge wins its miles off - if its going to take a bit longer to go in, it'll more than likely roll bigger. Thyey don't offer more than green bars when dead - fact - so any nudge wins above that mean there is some juice in them. Gaz - you made profit yet still moan?! Like i said before, compare it to OTB wheree you would have probably lost £50, and its infinitely better!

yes its better than OTB I said that... typically matt imo you are overating this machine, which you seem to do with most machines it seems. I've had plenty of them offer green bars+ and be miles off, and even reforcing when they cost a load has not been profitable - YOU HAVE BEEN LUCKY thats it.

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:03 pm

I'd counter and say you've been unlucky :P I remember you constantly slating £35 extremes too when they are really profitable virtually every time they are there. Can't recall anyone else here whinging about them as much as you!

ob · Post by ob » Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:25 pm

yes perhaps I have been unlucky.

no I was slating the £25 jp jailbirds, which I found to be rubbish, the £35 one was fine.

INVINCIBLE · Post by **INVINCIBLE** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:20 am

Mattb wrote:You've just been lucky again there. Don't be surprised to see it lose on £30 or even £35. Can be random after this and die immediately. I was also hoping MS would use the notes, and have never take notoriety/notey boy and have no idea what theyre worth. Anyone?

hi mattb

i took notoriety red gives a shot on the notes hit £25 lmao....

INVINCIBLE · Post by **INVINCIBLE** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:10 am

[quote="Matt Vinyl"]Very true!

I'm only guessing, but are strikes 'progressive' like the Super Strikes on Games Media machines, whereby KO's are not progressive?

Might have a punt on this today, it's only across the road... ]

strikes on this (red), will remove the amounts below the one hit

dont no about blue

took 5 red strikes today £12