online pub fruitys

fruitofthegods · Post by **fruitofthegods** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:58 pm

remember that the games will need a server to run from, so each spin needs to talk to the server and so forth.

might lose some fluidity...

Cardinal Sin · Post by **Cardinal Sin** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:41 pm

So you're basically proposing online hi-tech machines which aren't totally random, and instead play somewhat similar to machines we find in arcades and pubs at the moment?

I like the idea, but....

Would the legality be an issue? Instead of having a random prize table, you would instead pay out a percentage of the money taken in. I suppose bingo runs along the same lines, but I think you're biggest problem would be the same problem which has blighted real machines over the last few years. Machines have become more and more random to try and appeal to the random punter who fancies a flutter but doesn't want to get ripped off by machines tailored towards the more experienced and skilful player.

I think you would need to get a manufacturer / online casino on-side though. The sheer amount of testing that would be required so that an online game is legal, fair and unmanipulatable (is that even a word?)... the last point is especially pertinent. An emptier for a current hi-tech machine is one thing - imagine a line of 100 identical emptiable machines with an unlimited hopper!

bigv038 · Post by **bigv038** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:11 am

also can you watch ppl playing each m/c so we can shark :P

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:05 am

YE - you're right. There's a lot more to it than just cobbling together a few games and hosting them on a website.
I also agree that I've no idea where we would stand legally with it - there would probably have to be some 'licence' paid for as a minimum. And if it were to fall under the same category as Sec34 machines, that'd be a lot of bunce if there were to be thousands of each game!

Apart from that, I'm pretty sure it would be a good idea. It just feels like a niche that's not yet been covered, which usually means:

- It can't! (very common)

- It won't work, or (just as common)

- It can, and no-one has considered it (rare)

The main issue might be that as the machines are not random, bots could be programmed that would recognise patterns etc. There'd have to be a hell of a lot of security...

splurgle · Post by **splurgle** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:22 pm

Few flaws which I thought Id highlight, and some you did spot.

Legality. All the online casino's are hosted offshore in places such as Gibraltar, the caribean etc etc which have nice friendly gambling laws. You couldn't host games in the uk without payint the license, abiding by the laws and regulations, and abiding by the stake and prize limits. Trust me, thats a HUGE amount of work.

All casino's are tied to a provider, such as Microgaming, and they cannot get games from other people at all. So you won't be able to simply license your games to someone like Ladbrokes.

To make a casino site and have even the tiniest impact against the ones already out there will cost you many million pounds in advertising alone, minimum of £5,000,000 is the figure which you will hear in the industry.

I could say much more, but I really can't!

If be interested in hearing what you don't like about the ones already online though, leave me a message!

Drpepper · Post by **Drpepper** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:37 pm

I've never seen the difference between an AWP in a pub and one on a screen. With video AWP's soon coming it might be the start.

I for one wouldn't feel the same sat on a PC playing an AWP though.

theoak · Post by **theoak** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:14 pm

We have two Video AWPs at the university I work out, each with (the same) four games.

Battleships, Bullseye, Reel roulette, and hi lo poker.

The first two are 'genuine pub fruities' (features, trails etc) and are both pretty consistant (though small) earners. Never ever streak. the playing experience to me just doesn't compare.

theoak · Post by **theoak** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:16 pm

thinking of it though, companies like red might do very well from one machine that has software versions of all/a selection of their machines. thoughts? question would be whether they share the same inbox/outbox or have individual takings-can you imagine finding a mahince with 16 Reds on it, mostly in decent mood?! would take about a year to be ready again!

splurgle · Post by **splurgle** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:22 pm

So out of the 10 now on Ladbrokes, which do you and dont you like, and why? What would you like to see? Bigger Jackpots? Anythings possible in theory

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:32 pm

As I've already said, I think the ideal thing would be an 'exact' version of say, a Red or 'Crest game. I'm pretty sure this 'would' get players!

I'm still open for working on something along these lines. Just because it's video, doesn't mean you should do away with trails, nudges, feature boards, pots, feature games, etc...

It's just a different way of 'representing' the game. And think about it, it opens up the possibilities of hundreds of new features that could be used that simply would not work with 'physical' hardware...