Your Rainbow Riches Pot symbol reference is wrong.Roll_With_It_Russ wrote:When you are talking about slot games, the near misses have to happen in proportion to the time you do win... for instance you get pot symbols on reels 2 and 3, but not on 4... it would be expected that it can near miss twice as often as hit.
Though there is not a requirement for B3 games to have true representation for the odds anyway.
When you get pots on Rainbow riches the pot symbol appears on real 4, every 3rd symbol so its impossible to miss.
£500 Bookies slots
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Well microgaming yes can win far more for simular stakes, but least on rainbow riches you can win 50p and gamble it, 6p, 15p, 30p wins, such a pain, to date i've never won more than 500 on a single spin on a microgaming slot... plenty of a few hundred and had 5 kings on a 5 line slot for £500 years ago. Thats the issue the really big wins are so rare you can pretty much take them out o the equation.
see laddies have a 40spin promotion on santa slot for £10 turnover on a range of favs... will have a crack at that later.
see laddies have a 40spin promotion on santa slot for £10 turnover on a range of favs... will have a crack at that later.
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That Santa slot is utter crap.
I've had £800 odd on Thunderstruck 2 on the bonus round, I prefer Immortal Romance as it reasonably frequently gives 3 wild reels on the 'Wild Desire'... best result I had was £560 odd off that then the next spin was a £990 spin! It was 4 Immortal Romance symbols and 5 of a kind of the lady in red - so over £1500 from £6 worth of spins!
I've had £800 odd on Thunderstruck 2 on the bonus round, I prefer Immortal Romance as it reasonably frequently gives 3 wild reels on the 'Wild Desire'... best result I had was £560 odd off that then the next spin was a £990 spin! It was 4 Immortal Romance symbols and 5 of a kind of the lady in red - so over £1500 from £6 worth of spins!
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i've had some nice wins on iron man 2 whilst having a little slot dabble during poker, have to say though it was just one or two decent hits the total dryness between.
interesting corals having update on the Fobs tonight, could be new game content tomorrow, guess will find out if its just profile tweeks or some game set to a player friendly profile for a short intro period...
interesting corals having update on the Fobs tonight, could be new game content tomorrow, guess will find out if its just profile tweeks or some game set to a player friendly profile for a short intro period...
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the email i sent last nite; i forwarded the ip address and the post which contained 20 weeks figures of the bookies shop payouts
"Dear Mr xxx
Thank you for your email
As I’m sure you are aware the most common game played on FOBT’s (or B2 machines as they are categorised) is Roulette. The game of roulette has a natural margin built into the game at 2.77% (single zero) as there are 36 possible outcomes giving a 35/1 chance of winning. However this is expressed over an infinite number of games and a 20 week period is not representative, not least because the figures shown do not refer to the different games played upon the machine, each of which has a slightly different average percentage.
The Position taken by the Gambling Commission is that all gaming category B2 machines must be independently tested. This is to ensure that they comply with our technical standards in full which test that:
a game outcome is random
that the payout percentage or odds are correct
all display notices are complied with.
Category B2 machines are tested and approved by an independent test house as already stated. Additionally, both the operator of the betting shop and the machine supplier must be licensed by the Commission.
Category B2 gaming machines must be random. The numbers a player selects cannot have any bearing on the result of the game – the result is determined by a random number generator.
Our approach to making sure our requirements for offering gaming machines are met is risk-based. Licensed machine suppliers and manufacturers are audited to ensure they have sufficient policies, procedures and internal controls (including external testing procedures as detailed above) in place to comply with our technical standards, whether for new or upgraded games.
I hope the above re-assures you that gaming machines in Great Britain are regulated to ensure fairness to the player.
Stephen Foster
Licensing Officer
Gambling Commission
4th Floor Victoria Square House Victoria Square Birmingham
B2 4BP"
i don't accept the 2.7% and will press on with a freedom of information act request to get a copy of the reports from the "independant test houses"
was in a "Jennings" today for 5 minutes, a face i've seen before had 32 numbers covered, £68 spins... was £700 down...
in rolls 2... not covered
he puts £4 on and it comes in again...
14 comes in... not covered
30 comes in... not covered
he puts £5 on it...
8 comes in... not covered.
i expect to see a report from the gambling commission stating that the average loss of a roulette punter is 2.7%
"Dear Mr xxx
Thank you for your email
As I’m sure you are aware the most common game played on FOBT’s (or B2 machines as they are categorised) is Roulette. The game of roulette has a natural margin built into the game at 2.77% (single zero) as there are 36 possible outcomes giving a 35/1 chance of winning. However this is expressed over an infinite number of games and a 20 week period is not representative, not least because the figures shown do not refer to the different games played upon the machine, each of which has a slightly different average percentage.
The Position taken by the Gambling Commission is that all gaming category B2 machines must be independently tested. This is to ensure that they comply with our technical standards in full which test that:
a game outcome is random
that the payout percentage or odds are correct
all display notices are complied with.
Category B2 machines are tested and approved by an independent test house as already stated. Additionally, both the operator of the betting shop and the machine supplier must be licensed by the Commission.
Category B2 gaming machines must be random. The numbers a player selects cannot have any bearing on the result of the game – the result is determined by a random number generator.
Our approach to making sure our requirements for offering gaming machines are met is risk-based. Licensed machine suppliers and manufacturers are audited to ensure they have sufficient policies, procedures and internal controls (including external testing procedures as detailed above) in place to comply with our technical standards, whether for new or upgraded games.
I hope the above re-assures you that gaming machines in Great Britain are regulated to ensure fairness to the player.
Stephen Foster
Licensing Officer
Gambling Commission
4th Floor Victoria Square House Victoria Square Birmingham
B2 4BP"
i don't accept the 2.7% and will press on with a freedom of information act request to get a copy of the reports from the "independant test houses"
was in a "Jennings" today for 5 minutes, a face i've seen before had 32 numbers covered, £68 spins... was £700 down...
in rolls 2... not covered
he puts £4 on and it comes in again...
14 comes in... not covered
30 comes in... not covered
he puts £5 on it...
8 comes in... not covered.
i expect to see a report from the gambling commission stating that the average loss of a roulette punter is 2.7%
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The average loss is higher because you can't beat a supercomputer.
sent another mail requesting freedom of information release.
i don't know how much you've played roulette on an FOBT, i hate to admit it but i've played them quite a bit.
i'm glad to have someone far cleverer than me on the forum to show me where i've been going wrong all these years.
sent another mail requesting freedom of information release.
i don't know how much you've played roulette on an FOBT, i hate to admit it but i've played them quite a bit.
i'm glad to have someone far cleverer than me on the forum to show me where i've been going wrong all these years.
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These things are computers they must be able to show money in and total wins paid out over a period of say 1 or 2 years, by then the two totals should be levelling out,I bet the payout is nowhere near 97%.
Is this why the engineers/maintenance men often reset the machines while they clean them, sneaky bookies nicking all the progressive pot money
Is this why the engineers/maintenance men often reset the machines while they clean them, sneaky bookies nicking all the progressive pot money