Machines Paying Out Notes

mooster · Post by **mooster** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:10 am

Most definitely not a joke, I 100% assure you.

I only collected £10, but would assume that it is one note at a time... if they only accept notes singularly, would assume they pay out in the same fashion too.

Dr Paragon · Post by **Dr Paragon** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:14 am

Spyder wrote:i can see the plus side, and the negative

also i can see that it could work, or could go wrong..

but, it isnt a good idea.

do they pay one note at a time?

Why isn't it a good idea Spyder?

Cash was King · Post by **Cash was King** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:24 am

Makes things so much easier.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:50 am

My initial thoughts (based on no experience!):

Positives
-Less need for publicans to be aware of your winnings.
-Easy going for your George at Asda jeans.
-Far less chance of getting an IOU.
-Potential use as 'change-up' machines (dependant on exactly how they work).
-There will be a LOT of money held in individual machines. (See Negative 3!).

Negatives
-Not overly useful now, but 'backing' will be no more.
-'Notey Off' will probably cease to be a phrase / potentially useful indicator.
-There will be a LOT of money held in individual machines.

There are probably more, but until we know exactly how they work... For example, could you put £20 in coins in and collect it immediately as a £20 note?

Dr Paragon · Post by **Dr Paragon** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:56 pm

Matt Vinyl wrote:My initial thoughts (based on no experience!):

Negatives
-Not overly useful now, but 'backing' will be no more.

As you say, it hasn't been for some considerable time...

-'Notey Off' will probably cease to be a phrase / potentially useful indicator.

True, assuming you use this as an indicator... Some operators have the note acceptors permanently on, as is an option on most machines, so this is dangerous anyway.

-There will be a LOT of money held in individual machines.

Untrue - there will be no more held in the machine than is currently done. The technology is almost identical to the long-used note stacker technology that has been in use for a long time. Notes won't be put in by the operators - the machine will only dispense notes that have been put in by players. If it has no notes to pay out, it will use coins instead. They can also dispense 5/10/20 notes.

There are probably more, but until we know exactly how they work... For example, could you put £20 in coins in and collect it immediately as a £20 note?

This is unlikely, as it would lead to a lot of dodgy coins being minted so as to transfer them to legit notes. However, on single meter machines, getting around this problem could be an issue if not thought through correctly...

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:09 pm

Cheers, useful info there. You're right about note changers being dicey as deciding on the value in a particular unit, but it is surprising how many people won't approach a game if it isn't on.

Also interesting re: the amount held within the machine, I thought there would be a float of say £100 in notes as well as the £250 / £350 in coinage. But, what you say does make sense.

All in all though, I think this is a good step forward...

thecannonball89 · Post by **thecannonball89** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:37 pm

This will go tits up

Thumper · Post by **Thumper** » Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:10 pm

Dr Paragon wrote:Untrue - there will be no more held in the machine than is currently done. The technology is almost identical to the long-used note stacker technology that has been in use for a long time. Notes won't be put in by the operators - the machine will only dispense notes that have been put in by players. If it has no notes to pay out, it will use coins instead. They can also dispense 5/10/20 notes.

OK. So if £200 in notes is lost into the machine. Would the machine then have a float of £200 notes plus whatever coins are in it. i.e. £200 + £350 = £550
If this is the case then emptys could reveal some nice suprises

ming · Post by **ming** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:28 pm

i won £70 on a machine earlier and pressed collect for it to pay out 1 £10 note and the rest in coins.
so not sure still if it only pays one £10 at a time to try and stop it jamming or it ran out.

steveseagull · Post by **steveseagull** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:36 am

I took 70 out of one yesterday and it paid me 50 in ten pound notes and the rest in coins. The landlord doesnt particularily like the idea as people, in his opinion, are less likely to recycle a 10 note than if they collect the coins and fire them straight back in again.
The note mech itself did seem to be a smooth and robust bit of kit.