Flash bars. Are they entirely seperate? Or do they come from the repeat pot? Is it just a way of paying a '£35' repeat pot?
OR
Are they a seperate pot, but by showing up on autonudge they put back the repeat pot via inter pot reflexes?
Quick query re: GGG
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Well, I had two flash bars within approx £300 of consecutive credits.
I've also seen holds on flash bars a few times, although that just means that it could afford more bars from elsewhere.
Recently I've seen a couple of sets of ye 'old bars literally pounds of credits from each other. Usually when the repeat is being elusive.
However later chips of GGGs don't seem to like doing a full repeat. It's part of the 'screw players over because we hate them more than toolers. What's a tooler? policy' employed by most, if not all fruit machine design teams.
Basically what happens is you play your 86-92% GGG with its 9-15% feed to repeat.
It's full and, without being too explicit in the public bit, 'there'. It's three days after audit and you make the stupid, farsical assumption that in three whole working days and a bit it'll have had some play. What actually happenned is that before audit day, Andrew put £1000 over the back and took his £140 repeat and his saved Xs and the 'fake' main+repeat and then left it.
All that has happenned is that Flo put in £5 to win £5 on day one, thereby not appearing full when you tried a quid for a bloop which wasn't there. Then the next day when Floris put in £10 for nothing, it seemed full and was still 'there'.
However you had just played a Cleudo that played up somewhat, plus a couple of crappy serial skillers, you needed that one for cash attack and something went BANG! BANG! in the pub, knocked you off the beat and then you missed it. Still you carried on and next chance got the cash attack, only to do something totally stupid and not see a number and end up, after £26 in, having the opportunity to take £20 from numbers (1-2-1) or fook it for £8.
It annoys it somewhat and you end up £45 in for a GUAC for £35. It really did seem well ahead from the start, so depsite the low %, you go back in to redeem yourself as a serial S'er. Bad move it costs. Just not there, you had a SKILL but super hold for jackpot was there. So skiparooney all the way. That kind of crapulence. £15 down, not the end of the world. Other machines a bit niggly. You know, so a few hits and you're about £10 down, not the end of the world.
So there you are, in front of a full game, that seems to be there, rose coloureds on, not used to the new chip and BAM! you know the script, you're going for all the sweeties in the jar.
Well I'll not tell you about the intense maulage that almost matched my FOBT endeavours earlier on, but hell, in hindsight you'd whack it all on black and be done with it in seconds, rather than sweding it out as a grudge match. Really NOT getting the run of the nap, this week. I think all my luck has wound up in KENT. Like I said, never, never, never had a month this bad in 5 years if playing records. Never. Lucky to be up, that's how bad it has been. A couple of factors, lost a fair few good hits, will have to respot soon, new random players blah blah. Sounds like things are peachier down South.
I tell you this last week I've tasted that rare, but horrible medicine called "losing money". Fuck, I hate losing, it's not usually an option over the day. To be honest, we all have the odd day of losing. Say you have a day off, but meet some mates down the pub and lose a couple of quid in the fruit trying one board. It still gets recorded as a loss, but we all know that in a day of driving around playing x hits, that a win of should be on the cards, unless something horrendous has happenned. Usually, you can go months without a full session loss, BUT that FOBT has put me on some kind of cursed tilt. I know it's lady luck tempting me to go into the casino with a bag of sand and bet red/black. I know it. It's a conspiracy to get me to the dark side and it's might warm, tempting and exciting but I know in reality it's heartbreak, shatterring of friendships, loss of trust and respect and hey those are the good bits.
So onto this robdog game.
This is what happens. Auto pips as standard but whoopady doopedy bloop killers are rare enough that it's not so bad. Annoying that the 4 nudge pipply bipply obo bloopy can trigger a sqeuaky pip, but what can you do?
What happens is the % is a bit rough as no one plays fruit machines any more. Even the B3s have dwindled, but the thing about those is they take about 1K off you before you've really worked out the differences between GAMBLE ON, GAMBLE £5 and OVER and GAMBLE OFF. "Oh!" you say eruditely whilst letting aces fold on your poker freeroll as you're typing this. "Oh!" now I know how to play it, I'll waste another grand watching two pots out of three drop in every ten spins. Or bands of Rainbow Riches drop in exciting positions on reels 1,3,4,5. Ot to be really nasty reels 1 and 2 then nothing on 3,4,5. When it does that, your heart beats so hard, you forget to not feed in another grand. In the end you consider smashing it, in which time you've done another grand and realise you have no money left to buy a sledgehammer and you are so depressed, lifting the chair is a physical impossibility. Christ, just a taste of FOBT madness and wow, there must be some seriously unhappy people around. I've started watching 'em briefly them now. Crazy. Wedges of £20s. They'll wong 'em in. Usually they lose a grand or so before five jacks come up in that weird middle, middle, down, middle, up line for £10.
Every 1/20 visits they'll get something half decent from their first £100. Maybe three leprechauns for a peculiar £150 or the riches/3 pots actually drop for a £300-£500 win. You can't begrudge them that win as you know that they'll have put in £5-£10k for each time they get that 'lucky' hit.
Enough of rip off Bacrest B3s. Back to the topic.
You get involved. You get deep in and realise after almost two hoppers over the back, you've chosen the wrong pathway. Now you've got 5*8-14% to compensate for, but no worries, the fact it was there and you've got an extra set of bars should surely cushion that.
Then you get the fragmented repeat pot.
Now in my opinion this can consist of roll in Xs/games.
OR.....dun dun dun.........FLASH BARS! Well I know that now, but not then. I assumed.....oh lovely, a free set of bars, just what I want. Yeah it may put back the whoop slightly, in the same way a tricky bleep can bloop back the main.
It also happens when the repeat owes about £50-£70, but it pays out this fragmented £35-£40ish monster. This happens maybe onece or a couple of times and then you get your £50-£140 big boy depending on how many times this has happenned. That means if you take it on at the wrong time and it's playing up and ultimately it 'wants' to work toward a £140, then it's best part of 3k cycled, which at 86% works out as paying £420 toward the house.
Now a further interesting point is this. If I want to go into the long game, not that I could be arsed, but I mentioned, would they be prepared to give me a discount %?
Listen, I wanted to by a whole load of furniture for the g/f from a shop and haggled for a discount for paying in cash. Considering the current retail climate, the shop were happy for my business at a discounted trade.
Do the greedy arcades allow this?
No.
Look I'm not asking for a gold plated 99% key, I just want them to recognise, I'm a good customer (!) and if I want to play out a flat chip game for a couple of K then I excpect a good discount.
Fuck 'em then, repeat will be something that gets gifted, not got from now on and it's short game all the way, as it should be anyway. We all know the 'benefits' of playing the % as we get stuck in rechasing Reds!
Now I wasn't doing GGs p1/p2 or even p3, I'm by no means an expert. Also I missed out on the GGG release in '07 because in the voice of that country bumpkin bloke off the Fast Show - that week I woz mostly playin' dials.
"This week I 'ave been mostly playin' dials"
Anyhow, when it all went a bit uuurgh after all the DOND stuff had dried up, then I started getting stuck into the GGGs. Will look out for the £70s, hoping for some surf (big breakers) to come rolling in, but we'll see.
The GGGs I got stung on were the last around on a kinder chip.
Anyhow, more fuel to my argument that whistle bars are linked strongly, if not from THE repeat. I will dig out that ROM from fruit emu, attach it and it is buzzed. Not sure about nudge bars, or nudge bars with game in view. Not sure about them, maybe a 0.5% save for every 7k?
This ROM, £25 GG - It is ready to do a flash £85 (iirc) roll and then some.
The science bit. Basically you're re-extracting the ROM each time you play.
Usually it presents as repeated non auto pip whoopla. However sometimes, it'll wink on bars first time which IF TAKEN, KILLS THE WHOOPLA.
There must be some top, top boy Golden Game Jedi who'll scoff at my rusty nail exploits and garbled knowledge with some exploits of how they were taking £1k/set/week back in the day.
Cheers,
JG (sorry about length of posting)
I've also seen holds on flash bars a few times, although that just means that it could afford more bars from elsewhere.
Recently I've seen a couple of sets of ye 'old bars literally pounds of credits from each other. Usually when the repeat is being elusive.
However later chips of GGGs don't seem to like doing a full repeat. It's part of the 'screw players over because we hate them more than toolers. What's a tooler? policy' employed by most, if not all fruit machine design teams.
Basically what happens is you play your 86-92% GGG with its 9-15% feed to repeat.
It's full and, without being too explicit in the public bit, 'there'. It's three days after audit and you make the stupid, farsical assumption that in three whole working days and a bit it'll have had some play. What actually happenned is that before audit day, Andrew put £1000 over the back and took his £140 repeat and his saved Xs and the 'fake' main+repeat and then left it.
All that has happenned is that Flo put in £5 to win £5 on day one, thereby not appearing full when you tried a quid for a bloop which wasn't there. Then the next day when Floris put in £10 for nothing, it seemed full and was still 'there'.
However you had just played a Cleudo that played up somewhat, plus a couple of crappy serial skillers, you needed that one for cash attack and something went BANG! BANG! in the pub, knocked you off the beat and then you missed it. Still you carried on and next chance got the cash attack, only to do something totally stupid and not see a number and end up, after £26 in, having the opportunity to take £20 from numbers (1-2-1) or fook it for £8.
It annoys it somewhat and you end up £45 in for a GUAC for £35. It really did seem well ahead from the start, so depsite the low %, you go back in to redeem yourself as a serial S'er. Bad move it costs. Just not there, you had a SKILL but super hold for jackpot was there. So skiparooney all the way. That kind of crapulence. £15 down, not the end of the world. Other machines a bit niggly. You know, so a few hits and you're about £10 down, not the end of the world.
So there you are, in front of a full game, that seems to be there, rose coloureds on, not used to the new chip and BAM! you know the script, you're going for all the sweeties in the jar.
Well I'll not tell you about the intense maulage that almost matched my FOBT endeavours earlier on, but hell, in hindsight you'd whack it all on black and be done with it in seconds, rather than sweding it out as a grudge match. Really NOT getting the run of the nap, this week. I think all my luck has wound up in KENT. Like I said, never, never, never had a month this bad in 5 years if playing records. Never. Lucky to be up, that's how bad it has been. A couple of factors, lost a fair few good hits, will have to respot soon, new random players blah blah. Sounds like things are peachier down South.
I tell you this last week I've tasted that rare, but horrible medicine called "losing money". Fuck, I hate losing, it's not usually an option over the day. To be honest, we all have the odd day of losing. Say you have a day off, but meet some mates down the pub and lose a couple of quid in the fruit trying one board. It still gets recorded as a loss, but we all know that in a day of driving around playing x hits, that a win of should be on the cards, unless something horrendous has happenned. Usually, you can go months without a full session loss, BUT that FOBT has put me on some kind of cursed tilt. I know it's lady luck tempting me to go into the casino with a bag of sand and bet red/black. I know it. It's a conspiracy to get me to the dark side and it's might warm, tempting and exciting but I know in reality it's heartbreak, shatterring of friendships, loss of trust and respect and hey those are the good bits.
So onto this robdog game.
This is what happens. Auto pips as standard but whoopady doopedy bloop killers are rare enough that it's not so bad. Annoying that the 4 nudge pipply bipply obo bloopy can trigger a sqeuaky pip, but what can you do?
What happens is the % is a bit rough as no one plays fruit machines any more. Even the B3s have dwindled, but the thing about those is they take about 1K off you before you've really worked out the differences between GAMBLE ON, GAMBLE £5 and OVER and GAMBLE OFF. "Oh!" you say eruditely whilst letting aces fold on your poker freeroll as you're typing this. "Oh!" now I know how to play it, I'll waste another grand watching two pots out of three drop in every ten spins. Or bands of Rainbow Riches drop in exciting positions on reels 1,3,4,5. Ot to be really nasty reels 1 and 2 then nothing on 3,4,5. When it does that, your heart beats so hard, you forget to not feed in another grand. In the end you consider smashing it, in which time you've done another grand and realise you have no money left to buy a sledgehammer and you are so depressed, lifting the chair is a physical impossibility. Christ, just a taste of FOBT madness and wow, there must be some seriously unhappy people around. I've started watching 'em briefly them now. Crazy. Wedges of £20s. They'll wong 'em in. Usually they lose a grand or so before five jacks come up in that weird middle, middle, down, middle, up line for £10.
Every 1/20 visits they'll get something half decent from their first £100. Maybe three leprechauns for a peculiar £150 or the riches/3 pots actually drop for a £300-£500 win. You can't begrudge them that win as you know that they'll have put in £5-£10k for each time they get that 'lucky' hit.
Enough of rip off Bacrest B3s. Back to the topic.
You get involved. You get deep in and realise after almost two hoppers over the back, you've chosen the wrong pathway. Now you've got 5*8-14% to compensate for, but no worries, the fact it was there and you've got an extra set of bars should surely cushion that.
Then you get the fragmented repeat pot.
Now in my opinion this can consist of roll in Xs/games.
OR.....dun dun dun.........FLASH BARS! Well I know that now, but not then. I assumed.....oh lovely, a free set of bars, just what I want. Yeah it may put back the whoop slightly, in the same way a tricky bleep can bloop back the main.
It also happens when the repeat owes about £50-£70, but it pays out this fragmented £35-£40ish monster. This happens maybe onece or a couple of times and then you get your £50-£140 big boy depending on how many times this has happenned. That means if you take it on at the wrong time and it's playing up and ultimately it 'wants' to work toward a £140, then it's best part of 3k cycled, which at 86% works out as paying £420 toward the house.
Now a further interesting point is this. If I want to go into the long game, not that I could be arsed, but I mentioned, would they be prepared to give me a discount %?
Listen, I wanted to by a whole load of furniture for the g/f from a shop and haggled for a discount for paying in cash. Considering the current retail climate, the shop were happy for my business at a discounted trade.
Do the greedy arcades allow this?
No.
Look I'm not asking for a gold plated 99% key, I just want them to recognise, I'm a good customer (!) and if I want to play out a flat chip game for a couple of K then I excpect a good discount.
Fuck 'em then, repeat will be something that gets gifted, not got from now on and it's short game all the way, as it should be anyway. We all know the 'benefits' of playing the % as we get stuck in rechasing Reds!
Now I wasn't doing GGs p1/p2 or even p3, I'm by no means an expert. Also I missed out on the GGG release in '07 because in the voice of that country bumpkin bloke off the Fast Show - that week I woz mostly playin' dials.
"This week I 'ave been mostly playin' dials"
Anyhow, when it all went a bit uuurgh after all the DOND stuff had dried up, then I started getting stuck into the GGGs. Will look out for the £70s, hoping for some surf (big breakers) to come rolling in, but we'll see.
The GGGs I got stung on were the last around on a kinder chip.
Anyhow, more fuel to my argument that whistle bars are linked strongly, if not from THE repeat. I will dig out that ROM from fruit emu, attach it and it is buzzed. Not sure about nudge bars, or nudge bars with game in view. Not sure about them, maybe a 0.5% save for every 7k?
This ROM, £25 GG - It is ready to do a flash £85 (iirc) roll and then some.
The science bit. Basically you're re-extracting the ROM each time you play.
Usually it presents as repeated non auto pip whoopla. However sometimes, it'll wink on bars first time which IF TAKEN, KILLS THE WHOOPLA.
There must be some top, top boy Golden Game Jedi who'll scoff at my rusty nail exploits and garbled knowledge with some exploits of how they were taking £1k/set/week back in the day.
Cheers,
JG (sorry about length of posting)
,my version of andrew was not happy rowing sand through the one beside it.
Most peculiar. I'm not even going to speculate where those bars came from. I'm all written out on GGGs. Andrew loves to travel (and flirt with other men) so there's every chance it could have been Andrew. A typical daily route for Andrew would be. Plymouth, Harnhaaavle, Minehead, Cardiff, Bristol, Gloucester, Warwick, Leamington Spa, Birmingham, down to Banbury then Oxford, then Christ knows. I think he just plays continuously 24/7. Along the way he will take out all the Monops, Games, Hot Property's, Rainbow Riches and Reel Kings. Occasionally he goes in for that wierd Mega Bars shit (Project) which always finishes him off.
If he said "Coooeee you sexy beast lugsy, that's a bit of luck you had there" then it was Andrew.
If he said "Coooeee you sexy beast lugsy, that's a bit of luck you had there" then it was Andrew.
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