Power 5

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:04 pm

GlowingLikeAchristmastree wrote:but i thought the whole point of this forum, was to help others with less knowledge, now knowing the chipped p5 is a shite machine, surely should be said to warn people that it's ( majority of the time ) a waste of time and money! totaly agree with lee, but majority of the time i wouldent even check if it worked, lol unless was something else in there, if i checked every p5 i found id need at least a few that worked to equal the ammount of losses i took on all the others checking to see if works lol

Yes but going by that rule it would be, don't play it, don't play it, don't play it,
Great machine!! "Why??" errr can't say!!
Whilst threads can be based on players knowledge you shouldn't let that cloud your judgement on a machine from a basic start. Simple fact is that you know more than most, doesn't make this a bad machine!! it doesn't make it a good machine either but there's too much "This is wank" on here when they aren't that bad!!, just not guaranteed, and that's all that knarks me at times!! which I guess you've already gathered.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:10 pm

it would be nice , in an ideal world to help everyone ,

but in reality , ( if we're honest with ourselves ) we want general joe to lose on the good machines ,,,,,,,,, bottom line , no matter what perspective/viewpoint you have ,,,, they pay our wages .

but if we can get them off the crap ones , to put their hard earned in the good uns , for occasional small profits , it serves our purpose .

cynical ?? maybe

selfish ?? definitely

but thats the way of the world ,,,,,,,, nobody's going to cut there own throat. by giving general joe any top info.

slate me all you like . but if your honest , you'll agree with me

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:23 pm

You are spot on mate.

The people who piss me off are the old friends who used to slot but now have jobs, yet occasionally contact you saying "Hi, long time no speak etc etc, i'm having a pub lunch and they've got a xxxxxxxxxx in here, i've heard they are good, any tips? "

I normally say " yeah sure, i've not heard from you for months on end, over xmas etc, but sure, i'll come down and show you in explicit detail how to extract every last drop of value from this machine, rendering this unit and soon, i'm sure, every other one in the area a complete waste of time and money for me play, just so you can top your wages up..... LIKE FUCK I WILL."

Everyone learns the hard way, but no-one gets a thing from me these days, unless they've earned it and I trust them implicitly. And the employed get nothing.

gumsy · Post by **gumsy** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:57 pm

nicely said. couldnt agree more. power 5s load of toss. simple..

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:07 am

martin and scot , will have probably differing views on this mcstreak m8.

we have a mutual friend ,,,,, bik ,,,,,,,, now bik's a loverly guy , and been in this game for as long as me , but he possesses the skills of a crippled muppet , and simply doesn't have the mindset for a pro player,,,,,,,, he will freely admit this , he's under no illusions , and thus has worked for marks n spencer for the last 15 years ,

on the odd occasional day he goes out with me for a day ,,,,,,,, i always make myself a ton first before splitting any other profits , fair enuf , i think.

but if martin goes out with him , he still gives him 50% , which is commendable ,,,,,

but he's not a propper player , and has a guaranteed wage to fall back on .

with any other pro ,,,,,,,, 50 50 , fair do's .

but not with a working m8.

gumsy · Post by **gumsy** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:15 am

now that is what i was trying to say. you see lee i have noy got the super powers that you posses. and i cant spell lol. i go out with a friend who is in the forces now and then. as long as his petrol is covered he is happy and few drinks thrown in at end of night. if a non player expects 50/50 well there is only one thing to say to them. fuck off...

GlowingLikeAchristmastree · Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:28 am

ive never paid any of my working friends a penny when i go out, infact im such a tight bastard i make them go round for round with me LOL no i dont really but i should! lol, if there is a non gambler friend out with you, they are there for a day out bit of fun, catch up few drinks w.e, they are not out to make half of your living with you. as for the p5 debate, there is a lot better machines out there im sure for you none pro gamblers to play, im sure any 1 of u none pros can play a red........ enough of them about. And i know you can trap p5's etc, but in long run you would not win from this machine overall. so for the occasional win its not worth it, and thats my honest opinion. end of the day u guys who work for living if u want to put ur hard earned cash in this piece of shit machine then go for it, we did warn you, i thought it was quite a nice gesture myself LOL.[/b]

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:11 am

trayhop123 wrote:it would be nice , in an ideal world to help everyone ,

but in reality , ( if we're honest with ourselves ) we want general joe to lose on the good machines ,,,,,,,,, bottom line , no matter what perspective/viewpoint you have ,,,, they pay our wages .

but if we can get them off the crap ones , to put their hard earned in the good uns , for occasional small profits , it serves our purpose .

cynical ?? maybe

selfish ?? definitely

but thats the way of the world ,,,,,,,, nobody's going to cut there own throat. by giving general joe any top info.

slate me all you like . but if your honest , you'll agree with me

Yep, spot on. That's our livelihood in a nutshell.

sir ratholer · Post by **sir ratholer** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:19 am

As far as splitting money goes, if one of my mates wants to come round with me then they are getting nothing apart from a few drinks maybe. I've gone round with my uncle before and he's insisted on going round for round with me, which I think is very commendable.

The only people I'd consider splitting some money with would be my dad (sometimes I do, sometimes I don't) when he comes round with me, and my girlfriend, but usually if I play a machine while we are out then I'd pay for our night out from it, which I think is fair enough.

I have to admit one thing that really frustrates me...the people who have jobs but constantly want to be shown tricks etc. If I had a pound for every time someone said to me 'If I give you some money can you win some more for me?' then I'd be loaded. I usually reply something like 'Well I could just do that for myself couldn't I??' and they don't know what to say.

The only person who has a job who I'd give a trick to is my brother, who lives over 200 miles away from me and used to play full time too. I know he'll keep his mouth shut as he has no contacts any more and obv with the distance issue I know my sites won't get done.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:16 am

If i'm really stuck for a lift i don't mind going halves if they drive me round, i have gone halves with a mate before who would'nt know what to do if he got a let em spin, i only had a few things to try and everything was flying and i was'nt expecting it to be that good because i'd been round the day before (this is all on foot) i ended up giving him £80 for just standing there for an hour, he was happy anyway.

sharky007 · Post by **sharky007** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:33 am

i would do the same go in a pub if another decent machine is in there with p5 but wouldn't go in there buy a drink just for the p5 no way

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:37 pm

just to add to my working m8 , bik post ,,,,,,, ( just to defend myself from looking a tight arse) lol

as much as he is a great guy ,,,,,,

he offers no insight , no thoughts ,,,,,, no decision making , for example on a red , whether to push on for the force , or to back away draining a cpl of wins etc .

may as well not be there , as the outcome of your day wont change .

infact if anything you'll only be worse off , due to increased rounds etc .

as great as a m8 he is ,,,,,,,,,, fuck ever going halves with him.

Mr McStreak · Post by **Mr McStreak** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:54 pm

Yeah I agree mate.....

I get driven around alot by a non player, who is totally disinterested, and often just sits in the car so I have no worries about him suddenly seeing the potential of slotting and becoming a threat. He is happy with what ever I give him, he doesn't even ask how much i've made. If I make say...300 i'll chuck him 80 pounds or whatever.

Another person who I have to resort to employing is a bit more keen, and I have to tell him to stay in the car so as to stop him seeing something i'm not happy him seeing. Again he gets what I give him.

At the end of the day if you are out with a competent player its 50/50, as you are splitting up to do the hits etc, and getting things done quicker, plus you are both pulling your weight. But otherwise....