Matt Vinyl wrote:Sorry to butt in here and maybe appear dense, but what is the point of playing ANY machine that only has, say <£30 in it?* You've immediately limited the amount of profit you can make from that machine to exactly what is left in it?
An example would be, say, a Vortex, which when keyed before you started playing had £8 left in it. You then proceeded to try a board and within your first few spins, you obtained a nudge and it was ARB1. Great, we'd all think, we're on for a £70 here! But hang on, there's only £8 left for it to give me? Hmm... You'd 'never' be able to profit from that machine after you had put a single credit over £8 into it.**
*Regardless as to the means by which the other £220+ was removed from said machine?
**Unless you were 100% confident that you'd get a 'payout' via a barmen / engineer.
Am I missing something?!
ARB1 is not what I'd rely on as a sign.
* If it has been removed from tooling, you are leaving a streak for some other cunt / lucky punter This is unacceptable. This means the toolers have just fucked me twice. Why should I allow this to happen?
** I've got well over 95% of my claims, places that dont, get dealt with (Litten Tree for example)
Let me make a statement which will probably result in most of you making a mess of your keyboards :-
If there was NO tooling and NO note changers. A refill key would be VERY VERY valueable (£15 Barcrest days for example, when tooling was so rare, you'd have more of a chance of Jennifer Aniston walking into your local pub, sinking 3 tequillas and ripping her clothes off on the dance floor than meeting a box that had been tooled).
However, with the VERY VERY high amounts of tooling, the 'random' refills (i.e. 125, 150, 250 etc, a refill no longer means 'full') and the note changers etc... keys are useless... EXCEPT... (right, reload, aim fire...)
If you key a 250 machine that has next to fuck all in it, it is more than likely (though not guaranteed) not worth playing.
Having said all this. I dont want to use a key which IS cheating (otherwise they'd be no advantage in using one), cos I think its immoral and should be illegal (it sort of is, grey area, yah de yah).
Also, over the years (fck me, even last couple of weeks Ive had it) I have been accused of the classics "Magic Boxes, Mobile Phones etc and the ever-lasting 'key off the internet'". To whcih I like to be able to tell these fucking idiots to get a clue, in case of management, I'll empty my pockets on the table and will sometimes insist they apologise or call the police. If they refuse, I've been known to call the police myself (they wont come out unless you tell them you are refusing to leave and people are getting heated). When they do arrive, you must leave or will be charged with trespasssing or the classic 'drunkenly disorderly'. The most important thing, is I have proved my innocence and this will all have to be discussed at the next pubwatch and where applicable, licenseing / community meetings. This goes one where or the other. You will either have total immunity in the town, or they wont let you play machines cos you win. This is why I normally also add that 'you didnt complain when i did my bolox in it last week' and such so I look like a rich addict opposed to a constant winner.
I could not do any of these things, if I had actually key'd a machine.