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Drift on a £4000 JP
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:25 pm
by blackmogu
I was in the casino last night having a marathon punt, and observed the payout / take menu when the collections crew came around. The machine had a drift of 2% under payout of 94% on £1,400,000 paid. The thing was due to pay ~£25,000 to reach target percentage. This seems a rather large drift over such a long period to me. It wouldn't surprise me if they 'retire' the machines with a healthy drift such as this, and replace them with a new one.
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:16 pm
by Spyder
surely that will never meet %age from this point on?
at least the machine has paid for itself eh???
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:41 pm
by Captain.Tattybojangles
Won't need that much, I expect machines run on the upper and lower bounds of percentages. So I expect there are some 70% machines out there on 69.5 really
Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:40 pm
by ben twilly
so what your saying is the machine paid out 1.4 million?? or have you got your sums wrong, cos reading it, it says £1,400,000 = 1.4 million

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:36 am
by Spyder
hahaha yeah of course... its in units of 10p or £1 so you take a few decimal points off, meaning its 1,400,000 units or something.. which is 14k, 3.something times the jp, which isnt too unbelieveable, as with 500's that dont jp in 4 or 5k
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:48 pm
by mr lugsy
I don't see a problem with that 1.4m figure either.
I have seen b3 on six figure amounts over a couple of seasons .
As for 25k drift from percentage......that's not good for the punter is it?
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:01 pm
by blackmogu
Well spotted JG, the rough figures from memory were something like :-
£1,519,560 taken.
£1,400,300 paid.
The machine was on a 94% payout, so 100 - ((paid/taken)*100) gives us the percentage reached, which was ~92%.
This gives us a 1% drift value equalling ~£15,000. I have heard tales of a 4K machine paying out large numbers of jackpots over a period of two weeks or so. If it pays out 6 jackpots it will come close to meeting it's percentage target.
The machine didn't display what percentage it was on in the accounting menu, so whilst I was waiting for the collection to finish, I calculated all the machines percentage. Most were within 0.1 - 0.2 % - the one I was on had the highest drift by a factor of 10 !
And JG, the four that I play currently show their mood through the gameplay - i.e they are predictable to a certain extent that they are profitable. This analysis did cost alot of money however

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:03 pm
by e4ans
Isnt the legal requirement 72% so It hansnt underpaid by law, just what the casino has set it at?
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:34 pm
by harry2
Casino = 80% min, IIRC. Maybe if was set at 90% for part of its lifetime
ie £700,000 at 90% = £630,000.00
and £819,560 at 94% = £770,386.40
Total in = £1,519,560 out £1,400,386 only £86 under percentage.