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anfield road
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you mean by word getting out on here straight away lol.anfield road wrote:fucking shithouses imo this site can be a pain sometimes
the info wont last long anyway, p4 on the way :/
i havent had a chance to chase down the full info yet but my mate is gonna get it to me tomorrow so if someone has the spare time and wants to be owed a favour can u pm it to me
if not, i will get it elsewhere anyway.
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Matt Vinyl
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my understanding of this is:
obviously the "top" of said chain is the programmer, who then lets on to whoever his contact is BEFORE the machine gets sited on test.
you'd have to be a nutter to empty a test machine so top guy probably tests the info once (probably not even for a profit/losing the money back in so the take isnt down) on a test machine to check it works, then once its on full release makes his money back in the first couple of days..
a full empty used before anyone else has it will more or less make £200 per unit ever week or so, a jp rip would probably make £50 - £100 per machine every couple of days... so 10k could realisticly be made back within a fortnight... (plus a lot of traveling)
if someone selling the info could promise a month or 6 weeks of silence then you should make about £25k in a month..
by the time anyone on here gets the info it will be more or less pointless to the person who paid £10,000 for it two months ago... as they will then have a new machine lined up pre-release,
everyone lower down the chain then goes out searching for the older machine thinking that the info has just been worked out and is ripe for the taking.. some of you get this a week or two before this point, once someone sees you doing the tricks, then it gets talked about on here and around the same time a chip is due it goes properly public and the units that arent off on the day it gets posted here either get emptied and ioued or are the first to have been chipped and no-one believes the trick actually worked because its chipped on their first attempt...
there are also people who made enough money over the years to buy the latest machines on day of release and play the fuck out of them with their own money till they find a flaw, ebay the machine and then go out hitting everything they can find, it might take a week of constant play, but it saves about £7500 and keeps you anonymous.
as an "ex player" and a more casual punter these days, i sometimes find that machines are not playing as they probably should, its harder to tell on £1 a go, but on 50p over the last couple of years, its easy to tell what might be getting hit, just like when i got death threats on here for asking about "deal or no deal gold" in its first week of release...
fruit machine playing is serious buisness to the real top people, and i wouldnt be suprised to read in the press one day that its mixed up with proper "organised crime" because anyone making £25,000 in a month and trying to bank it is going to have to launder the money.
obviously the "top" of said chain is the programmer, who then lets on to whoever his contact is BEFORE the machine gets sited on test.
you'd have to be a nutter to empty a test machine so top guy probably tests the info once (probably not even for a profit/losing the money back in so the take isnt down) on a test machine to check it works, then once its on full release makes his money back in the first couple of days..
a full empty used before anyone else has it will more or less make £200 per unit ever week or so, a jp rip would probably make £50 - £100 per machine every couple of days... so 10k could realisticly be made back within a fortnight... (plus a lot of traveling)
if someone selling the info could promise a month or 6 weeks of silence then you should make about £25k in a month..
by the time anyone on here gets the info it will be more or less pointless to the person who paid £10,000 for it two months ago... as they will then have a new machine lined up pre-release,
everyone lower down the chain then goes out searching for the older machine thinking that the info has just been worked out and is ripe for the taking.. some of you get this a week or two before this point, once someone sees you doing the tricks, then it gets talked about on here and around the same time a chip is due it goes properly public and the units that arent off on the day it gets posted here either get emptied and ioued or are the first to have been chipped and no-one believes the trick actually worked because its chipped on their first attempt...
there are also people who made enough money over the years to buy the latest machines on day of release and play the fuck out of them with their own money till they find a flaw, ebay the machine and then go out hitting everything they can find, it might take a week of constant play, but it saves about £7500 and keeps you anonymous.
as an "ex player" and a more casual punter these days, i sometimes find that machines are not playing as they probably should, its harder to tell on £1 a go, but on 50p over the last couple of years, its easy to tell what might be getting hit, just like when i got death threats on here for asking about "deal or no deal gold" in its first week of release...
fruit machine playing is serious buisness to the real top people, and i wouldnt be suprised to read in the press one day that its mixed up with proper "organised crime" because anyone making £25,000 in a month and trying to bank it is going to have to launder the money.
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redlinesman
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Programmers get paid alot and certainly they would not risk losing their (long term) job to put a (short term) trick knowingly into their fruit, never mind sell a trick. I'm sure there has been a couple in the past but I dought they are still in their jobs.
The main guys are the code breakers of the game, they are the top of the chain. In my 18 years of playing fruits I've only met 2 players I regard as being on this level. They work out trick after trick, some tricks they may not be the first but they will work it out in the end with the little info they can gather. They will be around even when most players give up.
The main guys are the code breakers of the game, they are the top of the chain. In my 18 years of playing fruits I've only met 2 players I regard as being on this level. They work out trick after trick, some tricks they may not be the first but they will work it out in the end with the little info they can gather. They will be around even when most players give up.
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redlinesman
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One things for sure if your taking £200 out of every unit per week it would be game over within the month. Around 80-90% of the games would not just be failing to meet percentage but would be significantly down and this would be picked up fairly quickly.
If your a trusted employee and your defrauding a company this is treated very seriously and it isn't viable for the programmer to say 'I'll put this in this month and I'll do this next month and I'll send my men out to clean them out' As obvious as it may sound , the programmers are accountable for there programming so any mishaps and they are straight under the spotlight. Rarely is there one single person overseeing a project so like I say, maybe in the movies. Certainly there has been bent programmers with people being locked up but these days, this is normally not the case.
The one big concern for me is often information getting in the wrong hands because in this circumstance everything is ruined. Unless you know what to do and how to go about it, its game over and something that might have gone on 2 years is over within in weeks. That is the reality of the situation. A person who has got lucky might have good intentions, he might keep it to himself and not tell a single sole, but in terms of the logistics and how to put the operation together it will be blown up inside 6 weeks, the very 6 weeks spyder has mentioned earlier. If you know what your doing you might get 2 years and then that same 6 weeks at the end of it, but even then its still difficuilt to decide when those 6 weeks are going to come.
The guy talking about the codebreakers seems to know the score. The downfall of AWP's is the way they have to be programmed and this leaves them vunerable to the old chain of events scenario. Im going to stop talking now otherwise I might say too much.
If your a trusted employee and your defrauding a company this is treated very seriously and it isn't viable for the programmer to say 'I'll put this in this month and I'll do this next month and I'll send my men out to clean them out' As obvious as it may sound , the programmers are accountable for there programming so any mishaps and they are straight under the spotlight. Rarely is there one single person overseeing a project so like I say, maybe in the movies. Certainly there has been bent programmers with people being locked up but these days, this is normally not the case.
The one big concern for me is often information getting in the wrong hands because in this circumstance everything is ruined. Unless you know what to do and how to go about it, its game over and something that might have gone on 2 years is over within in weeks. That is the reality of the situation. A person who has got lucky might have good intentions, he might keep it to himself and not tell a single sole, but in terms of the logistics and how to put the operation together it will be blown up inside 6 weeks, the very 6 weeks spyder has mentioned earlier. If you know what your doing you might get 2 years and then that same 6 weeks at the end of it, but even then its still difficuilt to decide when those 6 weeks are going to come.
The guy talking about the codebreakers seems to know the score. The downfall of AWP's is the way they have to be programmed and this leaves them vunerable to the old chain of events scenario. Im going to stop talking now otherwise I might say too much.
To be fair I was taking between £100-£200 a week out of an unchipped vamp that was in my local spoons. That survived numerous changes as the manager told me it was taking more than double what the other machines were, so in the right environment it could be masked, but in most environments I'd be amazed if the machine would last two weeks with that amount of drainage!! Especially if locals ain't seein a board inside a ton!!
Mind u dig its/wars/SH's have lasted ages in other venues, altho I appreciate that's a but different but not much!!
Casual player not likely to see a £5 board within £200.
Mind u dig its/wars/SH's have lasted ages in other venues, altho I appreciate that's a but different but not much!!
Casual player not likely to see a £5 board within £200.
ive just had a hi lo silver survive a change over because it take so muchPMK wrote: i had a viu that survived numerous changes as the manager told me it was taking more than double what the other machines were,
they took the big reds and the quizzer that had connect 4 put on and left on and replaced them with another dond and another quizzer that i put connect 4 back on lol (i took it off again too).
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