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burning the candle at both ends

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:41 pm
by maverick69
Ive been burning the candle at both ends for years now, its starting to catch up with me. do any of you think this ?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:18 pm
by qwerty
What're you on about?

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:31 pm
by maverick69
starting work early, coming home late , going out partying/drinking. Then getting up early to do the same over

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:35 pm
by AMK
Soon you won't bother sleeping. You will just circle the motorway network checking Jackpot Kings and burnt out fruits.


Hot Tip:-

Don't bother with LFE Services, JPK is now on 118 thanks to BGMJG. Bastards.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:40 pm
by betchrider
Sad life trekin motorways for cashpots all night

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:02 pm
by Been-Grant-Mitchell'd!
Stopping off at one service station on my way to see family hardly amounts to an all night servy run.

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:40 pm
by maverick69
Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! wrote:Stopping off at one service station on my way to see family hardly amounts to an all night servy run.
haha, come on we need a decent comment about this, blackmogu, darkhorse , what are your views on it

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:58 am
by thecannonball89
namco services best you can get!

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:24 am
by ob
Been-Grant-Mitchell'd! wrote:Stopping off at one service station on my way to see family hardly amounts to an all night servy run.
Sounds about right for you Jord eh, stop at one services and find a JPking on massive pot ;P

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:54 am
by blackmogu
My personal experience of professional fruits is as follows:-

1. Professional playing was great when i'm my twenties.

I had the energy to go around towns all day, drink a fair bit with few side effects, not mind so much about pub losers, fetid drinking establishments and proving to landlords that I didn't have plastic attracting magnets surgically embedded in my fingertips. After a hard days graft, I could party at night and be up the next day for doors. There was much easier money to be made back then too, so it wasn't a chore.

2. You slow down in your thirties.

I no longer have the wind in my sails that I did in my youthful years :-) My whole body ached after a days work. Drinking more than a couple of beers makes me sleepy and lethargic. I also found that the depression and low-level aggression inherent in pub staff and their persistent clientele started to affect me more. I stopped going to the more lucrative spots just to avoid this. Even worse was the uneducated stupidity and idiocy that was encountered on a daily basis. To witness this day-in day-out brought my spirits down.

3. You get life responsibilities.

Most people settle in their 30's and get married / start a family. Machine playing is not a good future to offer your family. There is little stability, antisocial hours and health risks.

4. Have an exit strategy.

I always knew that I couldn't play fruits forever, and planned ahead about 5 years. I now have my own successful businesses and part-own another. This foresight enables me to live a very comfortable life on a tax haven paradise island :-). Being successful in business is much more challenging and rewarding than scraping by in life with fruit machines. I've said before that it's alot of hard work, but the best thing about it is that each project that will make you money has a defined end-point that you can work towards. The more successful projects you complete, the better your reputation and the bigger contracts that come your way. I'm currently in the deployment phase of a national project that directly affects ~150 million people. That's real job satisfaction, which means more the older you get. I'll have achieved something good in my life that my children can look back on and feel proud of their father.

When I compare that with "my dad hanged around pubs and services all day and played gambling machines.", I know which legacy I prefer.

--blackmogu.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:15 am
by Noels Beard
Some very salient points raised. However, being successful in business usually involves ripping people off on a much bigger scale than taking money out of the fruit in the corner of the pub. So for those of us more socially minded, I know which I'd prefer.

But then no-one likes a Socialist.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:24 am
by Roll_With_It_Russ
So not much different to many careers

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:27 am
by Roll_With_It_Russ
Noels Beard wrote:Some very salient points raised. However, being successful in business usually involves ripping people off on a much bigger scale than taking money out of the fruit in the corner of the pub. So for those of us more socially minded, I know which I'd prefer.

But then no-one likes a Socialist.
Thats so true and often a veiw I put forward when people start to praise individuals that are seen as succesful in this way. I found that most of the public are to stupid to work out how they have got to that posisition.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:51 am
by blackmogu
Being successful in business involves working damn hard - what you've described is how to stay in business whilst not being successful. It's an unsubstantiated viewpoint to say that most businesses rip people off somehow.

Being an armchair socialist doesn't help to bring across your point either. Do you voluntarily pay income tax on your earnings from machines and pay your fair share into the socialised services that Britain provides ? I didn't think so. I certainly didn't when I played fruits, but I never claim to be a socialist or socially minded.

When I was living in the U.K I was paying more than 20K/year in taxes. I've done more socially with the wealth i've created and brought to the U.K and given back to the state than someone who "takes money out of the fruit in the corner".

The measure of your worth is in what you do, not by what you don't do ("I rip off people less because I don't run a business"). I kill people less because i'm not a dictator of an african state and don't make my money by robbing the populace. By your logic this example is just as valid in making me a socialist.

--blackmogu

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:23 am
by Drpepper
Look at the recent banking scandals, maybe we'd get a bit more respect if we all played 9-5 and carried our pound coins around in a briefcase...

I start a full time job on monday, so my days are over now, it's been fun though.