AA vs AA

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:33 pm

Seen this once online. Anyone else ?

johnjohn · Post by **johnjohn** » Fri May 22, 2009 6:57 pm

i have seen this a few times and quite funny to watch one of them lose to a flush

ma71lda · Post by **ma71lda** » Fri May 22, 2009 8:33 pm

I've been on the wrong end of a flush AA vs AA, and yes, its pretty sick!!

I'd be interested in knowing the odds of this. Pete?

ma71lda · Post by **ma71lda** » Fri May 22, 2009 8:35 pm

Forgot to mention, its nice when you have two opponents go all in against and they're holding the same pair.....but you have a higher pair. I've been in that position a coupla times too.

pokerpete · Post by **pokerpete** » Fri May 22, 2009 8:57 pm

ma71lda wrote:I've been on the wrong end of a flush AA vs AA, and yes, its pretty sick!!

I'd be interested in knowing the odds of this. Pete?

seen it many time (as well as other identical hand match ups)

If I have A,A the odds of my opponent having any other ace is 2 in 50 or 1 in 25 or 24/1
if they do the odds of their second card is 1 in 49 or 48/1
24/1 and 49/1 as an accumulator is about 1300/1 I think
you get aces once in every 220 deals don't you?
I guess that means once in every 286,000 deals I'll run my A,A into another A,A

I'm stronger on pot odds than deal odds to be honest

ma71lda · Post by **ma71lda** » Fri May 22, 2009 10:33 pm

Cheers Pete, they're monster odds aren't they lol. So when you consider the rather long odds of the runner runner (flush wise) too, it accumulates to an awful lot of digits and bad luck.

JG · Post by JG » Fri May 22, 2009 11:32 pm

True matilda, odds of getting AA vs AA and losing to a 4 flush on the board is pretty long.

I'll work with pPete's odds and run AA vs AA through a poker calculator. The only way AA can beat AA is by flush. Nope that won't work, it'll just be 50/50. I need to know odds of 4/5 flush on board.

Odds of not hitting any of your suits on flop

EQUALS, well you have twelve +twelve live, so 24 live.

SO 24/48 * 23/47 * 22/46

That's odds of NOT hitting any flush cards.

Oh shit, this is going to use nCr functions in a minute.

Will have to calculate on basis of one good 'un, mixed good 'uns, two good 'uns etc

Try another way

Odds of five flush on board good for your AA =

24/48 * 11/47 * 10/46 * 9/45 * 8/44 = I haven't got a calculator and can't be bothered to use my phone or the accesories menu.

Odds of 4 flush = Over to you Harry, I want to go to bed now. I guess work out odds of all five possible 4 flush flop scenarios and divide by five to get average odds, tired now, usually good at maths.

I know I've seen a website which lists these kind of odds, i'e odds of suited hand making a flush on flop

Probably going about this in a superlatively tricky way.

Whatever, 'the last thing you need when your AAz is against another AAz is a mega flush on the board'. It's the last thing you expect....or is it?

harry2 · Post by **harry2** » Sat May 23, 2009 12:04 am

According to other fora, there is a one in about 23 chance of either player hitting a flush.

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Sat May 23, 2009 9:06 am

NH.

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