AS outdraws seem flavour of the month on the rigged poker sites, of which Full Tilt is the worst, here are some of my outdraws. I shall try and keep this fair so that when I get outrageous luck, it gets posted up.
First tourney is a warm up $10 on Hills.
Here's the hand history.
<<JG edit: XML does not embed here, deleted as gobbledegook>>
George's heads up adventures, featuring outdraws
Well look, you can't see that. It's in XML format, how do I get that into here? Any clues.
For now you'll have to take my word for it, but at least I made the effort. basically it was quite an even match....but I was being slightly cleverer than my opponent but we were both jibbing and jabbing.
Then.....I get dealt 6c 7c and he has Qx 5x
No pre flop raise. (not sure)
Flop comes
9x,5x,5x leaving me with gutshot. Check check. Turn = 8x. Sweet.
So I raise, he reraises, I reraise, he's all in, blinds are sizeable by this time, so I call.
River = 8x => His FH beats my straight.
His outs were only to the full or quads => Three queens, Three nines, Two eights and the one five. That's nine outs => about 20% (just less) chance of hitting. What a surprise 1 in 5(ish) outdraw chance and it hits, typical rigged poker game. I've noticed it's worse in the wee hours of the morning peaking at 4am, that is when it is most rigged.
Obviously a 20% shot coming in does not imply riggedness alone, but I swear to God and I'm only know really getting into full on analysis of showdowns, that there is something dodgy going on. My mind tells me that these 20% shots are coming in 40% of the time.
So that's the first tournament. I've also got some from Full Tilt the other night, will post those up as well.
For now you'll have to take my word for it, but at least I made the effort. basically it was quite an even match....but I was being slightly cleverer than my opponent but we were both jibbing and jabbing.
Then.....I get dealt 6c 7c and he has Qx 5x
No pre flop raise. (not sure)
Flop comes
9x,5x,5x leaving me with gutshot. Check check. Turn = 8x. Sweet.
So I raise, he reraises, I reraise, he's all in, blinds are sizeable by this time, so I call.
River = 8x => His FH beats my straight.
His outs were only to the full or quads => Three queens, Three nines, Two eights and the one five. That's nine outs => about 20% (just less) chance of hitting. What a surprise 1 in 5(ish) outdraw chance and it hits, typical rigged poker game. I've noticed it's worse in the wee hours of the morning peaking at 4am, that is when it is most rigged.
Obviously a 20% shot coming in does not imply riggedness alone, but I swear to God and I'm only know really getting into full on analysis of showdowns, that there is something dodgy going on. My mind tells me that these 20% shots are coming in 40% of the time.
So that's the first tournament. I've also got some from Full Tilt the other night, will post those up as well.
JG
Ok still on Hills tonight, I see my XML spewed out as a load of gobbledegook.
Anyway tournament two and it's all rather mundane until my opponent suddenly shifts gears into Mr. super aggressive bully from Mr. Straight laced.
After taking a back seat I land trip kings on the turn and he bluffs me with all his stack, I have to call (no straights/flushes on board) and only really fear a set or trips better kicker, it's good, he has missed a gutshot and that leaves him with 300 or so chips that erode down to 180ish, with blinds at 30/60, he moves in and for an extra 120 I go for the jugular with 8J, he turns over 8Q.
On the flop we both catch the 8, but the turn brings me the jack, netting me the win. However, hardly a match changing bit of luck, making shorter work of what was pretty much a foregone conclusion. Luck when it's least needed, still a win is a win and that IS an outdraw FOR my benefit.
So onto round three.
Anyway tournament two and it's all rather mundane until my opponent suddenly shifts gears into Mr. super aggressive bully from Mr. Straight laced.
After taking a back seat I land trip kings on the turn and he bluffs me with all his stack, I have to call (no straights/flushes on board) and only really fear a set or trips better kicker, it's good, he has missed a gutshot and that leaves him with 300 or so chips that erode down to 180ish, with blinds at 30/60, he moves in and for an extra 120 I go for the jugular with 8J, he turns over 8Q.
On the flop we both catch the 8, but the turn brings me the jack, netting me the win. However, hardly a match changing bit of luck, making shorter work of what was pretty much a foregone conclusion. Luck when it's least needed, still a win is a win and that IS an outdraw FOR my benefit.
So onto round three.
JG
What a game. Hard to remember for sure....
The guy felt quite tricky and I thought we were almost evenly matched, but I have a superiority complex when it comes to poker and I felt I was slightly better. Back and forward with 1500 starting stacks. I was currently forging a 250 advantage when I get dealt QQ, he raises, so it's heads up I whack 'em in for the kill, he turns over JJ.
He spikes the jack on the river.
500 chips and next hand I have KJs and he has 5s we both move in and I spike a J.
I pull a few jibs jabs, some work, but I'm down to 500 again after trying to bluff at what was probably a strong hand of his.
Then I get 5s and he gets KJ......5s hold up for me.
So I've lost against his 4 dog, but won two coin flips pretty much so far in this match.
Again I've got him near the rocks when I have A9 and now the blinds are 80/160 so it's very brutal.
He moves, I reraise....bang call.....again, I'm aware I'm only slightly ahead preflop to his K7s
Alas BOOOM! He spikes the 7, holds up.....I'm on the back foot again.
Having to play hard, moved in with T 5 os, no call....dire straits.....then I had Aces (would post up if I knew how), I'm ahead and feel with the big blinds I should have played this softer, but two hearts on flop 2h,ks,5h, I min raise (I bluff min raised a few times prior and he called, so I figure this is the way to get his stack in...nope fold).
He wins a bit back, I get it back with TT which holds up to his God knows what I can't remember, I'm thinking K2 or something like that.
Then we check, check with me holding Q5, flop is beautiful 5,5,2, I call his bluff stab, turn = 2 he moves in and shows A 7......game over for him.
2-1 to JG and to be honest, looking fairly even in terms of luck. Showdown luck slightly bad for JG (as always!) and showdown luck is the easiest luck to evaluate as all chips are in, no incomplete information. I mean you could say I was lucky getting trips, but who knows how many trips he had over the course of the game.
On Full Tilt I would not have won two coin flips or even hit a top card on the flop. Full Tilt at 4am is absolute riggsville, Hills has always been a lot fairer, although Hills can have its moments.
Anyway that's my session for tonight, nearly 3am and I want to be able to hit skills tomorrow. I'll finish up by posting my aces (other thread) from the Rush Poker from the other night and my tourneys from the other night. I've cashed out of Full Tilt now (considerably down) there is something dodgy with their software. Mind you I don't give their customer service as much grief as Hills, then it's hard to get in touch with them. They have live support but it didn't work for me
Hills I have to send 'em a few sharp emails when the cards get naughty. They may be sharp but they're also a bit tongue in cheek and I think they like the banter, so they put a little chip on the doom switch for me. Enough babble. Good night. Sigh.
The guy felt quite tricky and I thought we were almost evenly matched, but I have a superiority complex when it comes to poker and I felt I was slightly better. Back and forward with 1500 starting stacks. I was currently forging a 250 advantage when I get dealt QQ, he raises, so it's heads up I whack 'em in for the kill, he turns over JJ.
He spikes the jack on the river.
500 chips and next hand I have KJs and he has 5s we both move in and I spike a J.
I pull a few jibs jabs, some work, but I'm down to 500 again after trying to bluff at what was probably a strong hand of his.
Then I get 5s and he gets KJ......5s hold up for me.
So I've lost against his 4 dog, but won two coin flips pretty much so far in this match.
Again I've got him near the rocks when I have A9 and now the blinds are 80/160 so it's very brutal.
He moves, I reraise....bang call.....again, I'm aware I'm only slightly ahead preflop to his K7s
Alas BOOOM! He spikes the 7, holds up.....I'm on the back foot again.
Having to play hard, moved in with T 5 os, no call....dire straits.....then I had Aces (would post up if I knew how), I'm ahead and feel with the big blinds I should have played this softer, but two hearts on flop 2h,ks,5h, I min raise (I bluff min raised a few times prior and he called, so I figure this is the way to get his stack in...nope fold).
He wins a bit back, I get it back with TT which holds up to his God knows what I can't remember, I'm thinking K2 or something like that.
Then we check, check with me holding Q5, flop is beautiful 5,5,2, I call his bluff stab, turn = 2 he moves in and shows A 7......game over for him.
2-1 to JG and to be honest, looking fairly even in terms of luck. Showdown luck slightly bad for JG (as always!) and showdown luck is the easiest luck to evaluate as all chips are in, no incomplete information. I mean you could say I was lucky getting trips, but who knows how many trips he had over the course of the game.
On Full Tilt I would not have won two coin flips or even hit a top card on the flop. Full Tilt at 4am is absolute riggsville, Hills has always been a lot fairer, although Hills can have its moments.
Anyway that's my session for tonight, nearly 3am and I want to be able to hit skills tomorrow. I'll finish up by posting my aces (other thread) from the Rush Poker from the other night and my tourneys from the other night. I've cashed out of Full Tilt now (considerably down) there is something dodgy with their software. Mind you I don't give their customer service as much grief as Hills, then it's hard to get in touch with them. They have live support but it didn't work for me
Hills I have to send 'em a few sharp emails when the cards get naughty. They may be sharp but they're also a bit tongue in cheek and I think they like the banter, so they put a little chip on the doom switch for me. Enough babble. Good night. Sigh.
JG
I entered a 4 player heads up knockout winner takes all. $6 buy in. I made it through to round 2, the final round. I felt my opponent was too aggressive, given that we were quite deep stack. I was forging an advantage, then wasn't quite getting the run of the nap. In the end, as the blinds got bigger and I was slightly behind I get dealt TT in the pocket, this is how it panned out. Ok, blinds weren't that big, but from the history, felt I had a good chance. Turns out my instinct was good, but my luck wasn't. Not the first outdraw I had sufferred in this tourney, I had a chance to kill my opponent but he sucked out, albeit think it was a coin flip. Anyway here's the killer final hand. Bear in mind this happened after about 45 minutes of hard work.
Full Tilt Poker Game #18195542345: Tier One $6.50 + $0.40 Sit & Go (137622782), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:59:41 ET - 2010/02/05
Seat 1: AsianRiceCooker (3,120)
Seat 2: Bloopman (2,880)
Bloopman posts the small blind of 60
AsianRiceCooker posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bloopman [Td Ts]
Bloopman raises to 240
AsianRiceCooker raises to 3,120, and is all in
Bloopman calls 2,640, and is all in
AsianRiceCooker shows [5s 4h]
Bloopman shows [Td Ts]
Uncalled bet of 240 returned to AsianRiceCooker
*** FLOP *** [Qs 7d 5c]
*** TURN *** [Qs 7d 5c] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 7d 5c 5d] [2s]
AsianRiceCooker shows three of a kind, Fives
Bloopman shows two pair, Tens and Fives
AsianRiceCooker wins the pot (5,760) with three of a kind, Fives
AsianRiceCooker is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,760 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs 7d 5c 5d 2s]
Seat 1: AsianRiceCooker (big blind) showed [5s 4h] and won (5,760) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: Bloopman (small blind) showed [Td Ts] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives
Oh what a surprise, Full Tilt strikes again. Rig mongers.
Full Tilt Poker Game #18195542345: Tier One $6.50 + $0.40 Sit & Go (137622782), Table 1 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:59:41 ET - 2010/02/05
Seat 1: AsianRiceCooker (3,120)
Seat 2: Bloopman (2,880)
Bloopman posts the small blind of 60
AsianRiceCooker posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bloopman [Td Ts]
Bloopman raises to 240
AsianRiceCooker raises to 3,120, and is all in
Bloopman calls 2,640, and is all in
AsianRiceCooker shows [5s 4h]
Bloopman shows [Td Ts]
Uncalled bet of 240 returned to AsianRiceCooker
*** FLOP *** [Qs 7d 5c]
*** TURN *** [Qs 7d 5c] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 7d 5c 5d] [2s]
AsianRiceCooker shows three of a kind, Fives
Bloopman shows two pair, Tens and Fives
AsianRiceCooker wins the pot (5,760) with three of a kind, Fives
AsianRiceCooker is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,760 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs 7d 5c 5d 2s]
Seat 1: AsianRiceCooker (big blind) showed [5s 4h] and won (5,760) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: Bloopman (small blind) showed [Td Ts] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives
Oh what a surprise, Full Tilt strikes again. Rig mongers.
JG
**** THIS IS NOT A HEADS UP STT, but it's PRETTY GASH so check it out **
Full Tilt Poker Game #18191456175: Table Adrenaline - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:53:17 ET - 2010/02/04
Seat 1: Bloopman ($45.85)
Seat 2: Toto1 ($37.50)
Seat 3: arinka ($104.50)
Seat 4: Yama_HJ ($100)
Seat 5: Flip Ivey ($137.15)
Seat 6: Squatch1 ($100)
Seat 7: fishsticksman ($100)
Seat 8: IrishMJB ($65)
Seat 9: mailman34 ($100)
IrishMJB posts the small blind of $0.50
mailman34 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bloopman [Qs Qh]
Bloopman calls $1
Toto1 folds
arinka folds
Yama_HJ folds
Flip Ivey folds
Squatch1 folds
fishsticksman has 8 seconds left to act
fishsticksman folds
IrishMJB folds
mailman34 checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 2s Ts]
mailman34 checks
Bloopman bets $1
mailman34 raises to $5
Bloopman raises to $9
mailman34 raises to $99, and is all in
Bloopman calls $35.85, and is all in
mailman34 shows [Th Ac]
Bloopman shows [Qs Qh]
Uncalled bet of $54.15 returned to mailman34
*** TURN *** [6c 2s Ts] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [6c 2s Ts Td] [Ah]
mailman34 shows a full house, Tens full of Aces
Bloopman shows two pair, Queens and Tens
mailman34 wins the pot ($89.20) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $92.20 | Rake $3
Board: [6c 2s Ts Td Ah]
Seat 1: Bloopman showed [Qs Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 2: Toto1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: arinka didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Yama_HJ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Flip Ivey didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Squatch1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: fishsticksman (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: IrishMJB (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: mailman34 (big blind) showed [Th Ac] and won ($89.20) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
Five outs and no backdoor straight flushes, five outs, with me redrawing to Q. About a 16% chance he had. Or on Full Tilt was that significantly greater than 16%?
I would show you a hand where I won $50 when I was in 16% vs their 84% but hey, guess what, I haven't got one to show you!
Riggesville!
Full Tilt Poker Game #18191456175: Table Adrenaline - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:53:17 ET - 2010/02/04
Seat 1: Bloopman ($45.85)
Seat 2: Toto1 ($37.50)
Seat 3: arinka ($104.50)
Seat 4: Yama_HJ ($100)
Seat 5: Flip Ivey ($137.15)
Seat 6: Squatch1 ($100)
Seat 7: fishsticksman ($100)
Seat 8: IrishMJB ($65)
Seat 9: mailman34 ($100)
IrishMJB posts the small blind of $0.50
mailman34 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bloopman [Qs Qh]
Bloopman calls $1
Toto1 folds
arinka folds
Yama_HJ folds
Flip Ivey folds
Squatch1 folds
fishsticksman has 8 seconds left to act
fishsticksman folds
IrishMJB folds
mailman34 checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 2s Ts]
mailman34 checks
Bloopman bets $1
mailman34 raises to $5
Bloopman raises to $9
mailman34 raises to $99, and is all in
Bloopman calls $35.85, and is all in
mailman34 shows [Th Ac]
Bloopman shows [Qs Qh]
Uncalled bet of $54.15 returned to mailman34
*** TURN *** [6c 2s Ts] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [6c 2s Ts Td] [Ah]
mailman34 shows a full house, Tens full of Aces
Bloopman shows two pair, Queens and Tens
mailman34 wins the pot ($89.20) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $92.20 | Rake $3
Board: [6c 2s Ts Td Ah]
Seat 1: Bloopman showed [Qs Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
Seat 2: Toto1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: arinka didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Yama_HJ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Flip Ivey didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Squatch1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: fishsticksman (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: IrishMJB (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: mailman34 (big blind) showed [Th Ac] and won ($89.20) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
Five outs and no backdoor straight flushes, five outs, with me redrawing to Q. About a 16% chance he had. Or on Full Tilt was that significantly greater than 16%?
I would show you a hand where I won $50 when I was in 16% vs their 84% but hey, guess what, I haven't got one to show you!
Riggesville!
JG
Well sticking with Hills a quick heads up $10 stt - remember you can track all these by scoping up Nudgeman to check I'm not missing out the bad ones and just putting up the good ones or even vice versa (to add fuel to my fire).
Anyhow straightforward, bit of a bluffer my opponent, caught him pants down a few times then when he was down to a third of his stack, he moved in with trips vs my flush on turn, he didn't make the full and my hand held up for once!
If this had been Full Tilt I was playing on, it'd have been so much more rigged......stay tuned......
Anyhow straightforward, bit of a bluffer my opponent, caught him pants down a few times then when he was down to a third of his stack, he moved in with trips vs my flush on turn, he didn't make the full and my hand held up for once!
If this had been Full Tilt I was playing on, it'd have been so much more rigged......stay tuned......
JG
Wrong username, not Nudgeman on cryptowhatever, it's JGseven on ipoker network.
Anyway another win under the belt, cards were rigged in my favour
I had a hunch that I may have had a higher flush on river and I was right, my huge bet was rewarded, only wished I'd acted stronger on my hunch and pushed in and finished it. Anyway the luck continued with me floping a straight and my opponent pushing all in with his remaining 400 chips on a straight draw. I had 9T and flop was 6,7,8 rainbow, doesn't come much sweeter than that, he was practically dead bar a runner runner 9 T turn and river which would happen on Full Tilt far too often. Held up and another win in the bag.
Anyway another win under the belt, cards were rigged in my favour
I had a hunch that I may have had a higher flush on river and I was right, my huge bet was rewarded, only wished I'd acted stronger on my hunch and pushed in and finished it. Anyway the luck continued with me floping a straight and my opponent pushing all in with his remaining 400 chips on a straight draw. I had 9T and flop was 6,7,8 rainbow, doesn't come much sweeter than that, he was practically dead bar a runner runner 9 T turn and river which would happen on Full Tilt far too often. Held up and another win in the bag.
JG
Howdy dudes. Three more games, lost the first one, outplayed, slightly colddecked combo. Next two piece of pie. Cards over all have been reasonably friendly to me tonight.
That's reasonably friendly cards at William Hill.
Play William Hill (only mildly rigged)
DO not play Full Tilt (incredibly rigged)
I'll play until I lose one....could be a long night touch wood.....good night, take care,.
JG
That's reasonably friendly cards at William Hill.
Play William Hill (only mildly rigged)
DO not play Full Tilt (incredibly rigged)
I'll play until I lose one....could be a long night touch wood.....good night, take care,.
JG
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just a thought,
if i was the big cheese behind a global online poker rigging operation ,i'd turn the doom switch down a little for a while until this thread had run it's course.i'd also enlist the help of at least one person who used to play for a living to negate the constant references to cheating that we have by citing stuff about variance etc.
one thing i seem to selectively remember when getting out drawn by people who are unable to fold absolute faecal matter is the fact that if they need runner runner to get either a straight or a flush and they hit the first one there is then an irregularly high chance of backdooring the hand.
it's got to the point now when i already know i'm beat on the turn .
i'm only saying this applies to cluey players , they probably get a much higher percentage of plays like this pay off just to keep them buzzing as the server knows that by and large they will just lose it over the course.
anyway, enough of the anecdotal tosh.
if i was the big cheese behind a global online poker rigging operation ,i'd turn the doom switch down a little for a while until this thread had run it's course.i'd also enlist the help of at least one person who used to play for a living to negate the constant references to cheating that we have by citing stuff about variance etc.
one thing i seem to selectively remember when getting out drawn by people who are unable to fold absolute faecal matter is the fact that if they need runner runner to get either a straight or a flush and they hit the first one there is then an irregularly high chance of backdooring the hand.
it's got to the point now when i already know i'm beat on the turn .
i'm only saying this applies to cluey players , they probably get a much higher percentage of plays like this pay off just to keep them buzzing as the server knows that by and large they will just lose it over the course.
anyway, enough of the anecdotal tosh.
Absolutely Lugsy, great minds think alike. I am pretty certain that as a direct consequence of this thread, William Hill reduced their doom switch margins. However, as my Nudgeman stt account shows, the doom level could always be circumnavigated to produce a profit. I did have to send various stern letters to customer services throughout the course of my winning though.
I'd also imagine the huge cheeses behind Full Tilt poker are quaking in their boots. I'm planning to redoposit after I removed the cremated remains of my bankroll in disgust, at least this way, I can show everyone how rigged it really is over there.
I've lost the motivation with this thread, I was hoping I'd be able to go haha.....look at my bad luck and I think I could do with Full Tilt.
I think I played another game and lost. I was propping my eyelids up with matchsticks and in the end just ran my KQ into an AK. Rather premature and their big slick held up, allowing me to go to sleep.
Anyway, JGseven is in the black again.
So I'll sign this thread off by saying anyone who gives a monkey's flip may track me on Sharkscope. I'll post up any silly sessions or stupid beats. This is until I go to Full Tilt when it'll be full coverage once more.
All the best at the tables and in life in general,
Jackpot George (JG)
I'd also imagine the huge cheeses behind Full Tilt poker are quaking in their boots. I'm planning to redoposit after I removed the cremated remains of my bankroll in disgust, at least this way, I can show everyone how rigged it really is over there.
I've lost the motivation with this thread, I was hoping I'd be able to go haha.....look at my bad luck and I think I could do with Full Tilt.
I think I played another game and lost. I was propping my eyelids up with matchsticks and in the end just ran my KQ into an AK. Rather premature and their big slick held up, allowing me to go to sleep.
Anyway, JGseven is in the black again.
So I'll sign this thread off by saying anyone who gives a monkey's flip may track me on Sharkscope. I'll post up any silly sessions or stupid beats. This is until I go to Full Tilt when it'll be full coverage once more.
All the best at the tables and in life in general,
Jackpot George (JG)
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I'm not exactly a hi-roller, but I do play the freeroll (£2k Pokerstars) every night or so for a laugh, but just bombed out in the first round - needless to say I had AA, which was beaten by 9 trips on the river. lol
Anyone else on there, out of interest?
Anyone else on there, out of interest?
"And do you ever contradict yourself, Minister?" "Well, yes and no..."
That sounds quite a generous freeroll, 2k every night?
I've got a few mates on 'stars, they never mentioned the freeroll though.
What is 1st prize and what are the fields like?
On Full Tilt they have freerolls, pitiful, that site is tighter than the barriers in the carpark next to Newcastle quayside Travellodge.
Thousands enter and the top prize is usually $8 or something equally insulting.
'Stars is a well talked about site, I've got to admit. I'm tempted to give it a go.....
I've got a few mates on 'stars, they never mentioned the freeroll though.
What is 1st prize and what are the fields like?
On Full Tilt they have freerolls, pitiful, that site is tighter than the barriers in the carpark next to Newcastle quayside Travellodge.
Thousands enter and the top prize is usually $8 or something equally insulting.
'Stars is a well talked about site, I've got to admit. I'm tempted to give it a go.....
JG