Hi Lo Silver - Rechip / Battered / Fiddled / Lower %age / ?

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:58 pm

Yeah some people just dont have a clue do they, they say it done a huge roll like 70,35,70,35 or sumin like that but if its red for ages it has to do that, its just going to be the same if you got it cheap and it goes for 70.

blackmogu · Post by **blackmogu** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:24 pm

how can people not understand the concept of 'showing' even after all these years amazes me even now. Fruits must attract the lowest common denominator...

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:01 am

blackmogu wrote:how can people not understand the concept of 'showing' even after all these years amazes me even now. Fruits must attract the lowest common denominator...

Ive had Hilos do plenty of 70's of peanuts without ever 'showing'.

It is very clear from peoples reactions on this post, that most of you have absolutely no idea about this machine and havent been battering them for as long as we have around here.

Either that, or we had a 'test' chip in our units and you lot had the release chip. Which I doubt, as we are talking about units from Claremont, GTK, LL (in the day) and PAM. Just far too many units...

greenbelter · Post by **greenbelter** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:08 am

So whats the general opionion on this machine? Play or avoid?

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:22 am

I've only played one - £30 in for £90 out, described in the thread full of praise for HLS.

I seem to remember 'most' Reds when they were first released would be very generous and then, over time, become less and less so. As mentioned above, this is most likely down to them being forced, forced and forced again - with the minimum time between to allow for recouperation.

There 'could' be something more sinister, such as 'time-delay' software that, over time, gradually tightens up the profile. Think what you can do with even the most basic programming language now? I'm sure there's a lot more hidden under the bonnet of a modern fruit than we all know about. Maybe even some sort of AI? Which 'learns' playing patterns and adjusts accordingly.

OK, so that sounds like something Mel Gibson might get his eyes taped open about, but who knows?

JG · Post by JG » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:31 am

Bang on there Vinyl, it's not all about re-chips, there was apparently code in the first general release of Neptune's Treasure that'd permanently block three time holds on triple bars (£5) and above after £13,450 played through.

Same chip, but £15k down the line, slightly harder.

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:42 pm

Played mine last night, very ready only made about 20/30 on it, tightened up loads, HS's seem so much harder to get.

Slammer · Post by **Slammer** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:33 pm

JG wrote:Bang on there Vinyl, it's not all about re-chips, there was apparently code in the first general release of Neptune's Treasure that'd permanently block three time holds on triple bars (£5) and above after £13,450 played through.

Same chip, but £15k down the line, slightly harder.

I agree this is the most likely event, in that there is some kind of time delay or credit played before xyz kicks in.

It is very common for reds to come out great and end up being total toilet.

This is now at the point of "an okay red". Nothing Special.

Alpine021 · Post by **Alpine021** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:29 pm

Who said reds don't roll? When you talk about reds rolling you are going back to £25ers.

When I played a £25er if the signs were there I would knock it back and force the roll whereas another player I knew if the signs were there would go for JP and then see if it "rolled" - not something I ever did. But he seemed to get bigger streaks at it was a natural roll and not pumping it to maybe make £20 or so.

But with £35ers it's completely different in my opinion - I don't knock them back. Again you look for signs but if it's not there or doesn't seem to be playing as well as I thought I'll walk - if I'm £10 - £15 down then so be bit - go back to it.

Similarly if I think it's playing well and I go for it and it costs me quite a bit for JP I'll go for another 1 etc... This whole thread has got pretty warped...

Nixxy · Post by **Nixxy** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:18 pm

greenbelter wrote:So whats the general opionion on this machine? Play or avoid?

Play, but not when there's only £30 in the hopper.

GaryChandler · Post by **GaryChandler** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:25 pm

I dont think some of you realise the reason mark took it on do ya?

Mattb · Post by **Mattb** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:27 pm

Exactly, tooled up and empty, but probably still ready. Take it on, IOU if needs be and get paid up. Not a big problem. Wouldn't have bothered myself, but can see the points he's making.

gambogaz1 · Post by **gambogaz1** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:34 pm

Mattb wrote:Exactly, tooled up and empty, but probably still ready. Take it on, IOU if needs be and get paid up. Not a big problem. Wouldn't have bothered myself, but can see the points he's making.

Valid point but then you run the risk of it being replaced if you IOU it!!

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:30 pm

if the notey was off, its probably not gonna be ready

if its got £40 in it its more or less certainly not gonna be ready

if its got £40 in it and you manage *somehow* to get a decent win on it you are going to end up iou'ing it and attracting attention.

if you have an empty, its gonna attract attention cause it WILL end up empty from this point..

if you're tooling, its gonna attract attention, shurely "toolers" arent taking ALL of the money out??

£40 potential make on a machine? not setting the bar too high are you?

why not move on and look for another machine to play/tool/empty/lose £300 in??

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:15 pm

Slammer wrote:
blackmogu wrote:how can people not understand the concept of 'showing' even after all these years amazes me even now. Fruits must attract the lowest common denominator...

Ive had Hilos do plenty of 70's of peanuts without ever 'showing'.

It is very clear from peoples reactions on this post, that most of you have absolutely no idea about this machine and havent been battering them for as long as we have around here.

Either that, or we had a 'test' chip in our units and you lot had the release chip. Which I doubt, as we are talking about units from Claremont, GTK, LL (in the day) and PAM. Just far too many units...

Spot on
All the so called 'great players' on here have missed the boat on this one
I have been battering them since i first played one
Mentioned a couple of results but kept it low key
Thought everyone knew about them
Obviously not
£130 profit today :P
One was £190 off

Left it £240ish off
i have only ever had 2 'showing'