Fruit Machine Chat

Hi all,

a newbie to the forum, I took the plung and bought my first fruity, a classic Electrocoin Bar X... however it has a problem

I have'nt got it yet, but the guy I am getting it from has said when powered on a "F" displays in the credit count... any ideas!

Cheers.

Geoffers!

The fault will most probably be the game eprom is loose or not in its base socket

Cheers machine doc... I will give it a go as soon as it arrives, and see if anything else is un-seated / needing a clean..

I will be made up to get this working, the sounds of Mr B's Arcade, at Leysdown, now filling my living room! :P

Ohhh the good old 'F' fault, the arcade i have just started working for have 12 machine in there workshop all doing this, nice trick to sort it, and it will have NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR PROMS, i recommend you do not touch these as old bar-x proms were known for static malfunctions. really simple to sort, let me know if you still have this problem m8

what would you suggest as the fault, as any machine eprom is capable of a static malfunction due to mishandling.A problem i would be interested to hear about as all the years been working on electrocoins the most common fault on the s barx is because the board is mounted vertical, being the game e prom or security chip card is loose or actually falling out of its socket.
Even electrocoins manual refers and Quote"Error code'F' ROM checksum error,ROM pins bent ROM NOT CORRECTLY INSERTED,Faulty ROM.
fixWorked for me no problem everytime.

Machine Doctor, your are correct, all machines proms are open to static risk, but some of the earlier electrocoin machines proms are a higher risk as they used cheaper grade materials to create the proms. Is this bar-x machine in question a front or back opening machine?

Hi all.... was away for an age then lost my log on details so sorry for the long time since reply.

I have checked all the chips on this, and they are in secure.. I have aso checked that the battery has not leacked and corroded anything.

Getting to the MPU is via the rear, it is mounted horizontaly on a shelf, below the reels, and over the PSU.. if that helps.

Geoff.

ive just brought a bar x from flebay works a treet only problem is wont take 50p pence,s and its paying out jack pot to often seems to be a counter that says 21 on it at the back inside dont no what it does
can any one help with turning it down abit, this is my first bar x

the counter is a refill meter and if it is the original bar x ,you can't "turn it down" as it is a fixed %

dont no if its origanal m8 not clued up on fruit machines just got it for the wife but paying out to quick

Geoffers wrote:Hi all.... was away for an age then lost my log on details so sorry for the long time since reply.

I have checked all the chips on this, and they are in secure.. I have aso checked that the battery has not leacked and corroded anything.

Getting to the MPU is via the rear, it is mounted horizontaly on a shelf, below the reels, and over the PSU.. if that helps.

Geoff.

Uv'e waited 2 years, and it's still not working

Give up son.... Or ask a propp-er machine tech...

....So did anyone work out the mystery fix for the Electrocoin 'f' fault?

I've just had two go down with this same fault - and I've checked the battery and chips - both which seem seated correctly and no leakage!

I suspect either the ROMS are goosed, or the mystery fix is needed

Many thanks

Needs news roms burning most likely, yes.

Regarding your Epoch battery thread that has somehow become locked,

Yes the battery will need replacing, although they are rechargeable it will be past it.

You could fit 3 aaa instead to make up the 3.6 volts, but it would most likely toast the charge circuit (the standard battery is only about 70mAh!).

It's best to fly-lead the battery off the board to avoid problems.

If you want a battery pm me.

the 'f' error is in every case ive dealt with down to the I/O driver boards for the flourescent tubes, as these crappy little boards are driven from the main MPU - always the same, disconnect the power plug from these 4 boards and i bet it works