Fruit Machine Chat

i brought my first fruit machine called knockout by global and everytime i switch it on i get an alarm sound and on the display it say 0.1 error code and at side of it it says pay alm?
and after about 5 secs it sorts ifself out and starts the machine as normal.
when trying to put coins in to play they drop straight through to the payout erea and is same for all coins(not take any) iv put the machine in test mode but still not take any coins iv tryed dumping the hopper with the green swith at the bottom but nothing the hooper not spin at all as tryed putting £20 in the hopper manully and it not spin
but everything else is fine and plays good in demo mode just carnt try it with doors shut as it not take any coins?
anyone with any idears plz?
if anyone needs any pics just ask and will upload some of it
thankyou all

it sounds like your hopper is not connected to any power, check that the power lead at the back of the hopper is connected.

Is this the one with the Eclipse board in your machine by any chance?

If so What messages do you see on boot up? (are there lots of '???')
as it sound like the cctalk line is down - it could be any component on it i.e. coin mech, hopper, or note acceptor (if one goes down it can kill the whole lot - especially the note acceptor)

Or it could just be a hopper jammed (but that shouldn't stop it taking coins in test)

Oh and IIRC there was a software and hardware update for cctalk problems on them as well, a big cap was fitted to compensate for low mains voltage at boot up and software was updated as they were using old cctalk SDK libraries - but I've said to much already ;-)

hi there
thanks for your reply there is a 10 pin plug from the hopper and plugged in and another one red,blue and black shown in pic but not plugged in anywere and cannot see were it goes
it is an eclipse board so thought i would show some pic
cctalk not sure what that doesafter the alam and error code goes of the alpha lcd deslays coin mech???? hopper???? and bnv???? flashes up but just thought this was the proseager of the machine starting
any more help plzz

by the way iv stripped the hopper down and theres no coins jammed anywere
cheers

OK from your last pic you have got the big cap fitted (from the wires that I can see - leading to a big cap under the hopper shelf)

BUT "coin mech???? hopper???? and bnv????" means it can not find coin mech, hopper or note acceptor (BNV is note acceptor),
so the cctalk line if defo fu**ed,

You could try unplugging everything mentioned above, then connect one by one and take note of the boot up messages to determine what is causing it to take out the cctalk comms line

BUT from your last pic I'm pretty sure that the connector is in the wrong socket - (the one outlined by yellow circle)
I'm sure it should be in the socket below it - give it a go - it won't do any harm even if I'm wrong (obviously do this when it's turned off and compare the boot up messagesand go into test etc...)
- one socket is for cctalk and the other is for MEI Hii BUT getting them wrong will not 'blow up' anything so don't worry.

6502 wrote: BUT from your last pic I'm pretty sure that the connector is in the wrong socket - (the one outlined by yellow circle)
I'm sure it should be in the socket below it

one socket is for cctalk and the other is for MEI Hii BUT getting them wrong will not 'blow up' anything so don't worry.

just whipped the cover off of a fubar'ed eclipse I have knocking around, it is definately the bottom one of the two for CCtalk, so moving the plug should resolve your issues

Doctor Jones wrote:

6502 wrote: BUT from your last pic I'm pretty sure that the connector is in the wrong socket - (the one outlined by yellow circle)
I'm sure it should be in the socket below it

one socket is for cctalk and the other is for MEI Hii BUT getting them wrong will not 'blow up' anything so don't worry.

just whipped the cover off of a fubar'ed eclipse I have knocking around, it is definately the bottom one of the two for CCtalk, so moving the plug should resolve your issues

Ahh glad you can confirm that cheers, (wasn't 100% sure as don't have machine at the mo')

So that should fix his problem if the OP ever comes back

no problem, it's all printed on the pcb, just can't be seen easily with the case on.

gotta say though, those eclipse boards were rubbish, prob main reason inspired sold maygay brands to igt, they lost a fortune on that useless technology!!

thanks again chaps for your help

got a little further with it today
unplugged coin mech and hopper but not note acceptor as is hasant got one lol
and the same message pay alm and the coinmech???? hopper???? bnv???
then plugged in one at a time and same message
taken the plug out as shown in pic u advised and put it in cctalk
same message pay alm and the coin mech??? hoppor???? bnv????
unplugged all and put coin mech on and taken the hopper out and now says
hopper???? bnv???? but no coin mech???? put coins in and they all register and drop straight in to bottom tubes 50p 10p 50p 20p in one and £1 in other tryed cashing out and it say iou £3 with was right but when i plug coin mechup as well
all coin drop straight to pay erea so does this meen my hoppers fu**ed and need a new one?
cheers for all help

When you stripped the hopper down before did you make sure you plugged the correct connector in to it - as the will be a spare one that you mentioned before
Or you could try the other connector and recheck

by any chance did you buy this machine off ebay?

as the seller (to comply with ebays rules) will have disconnected the mech and hopper

i didnt get it of ebay so hopper should not have been disconnected
i will recheck that all plugs are connected in the hopper and try again
the hopper is compact hopper mk2
and let u know
cheers

just done all checks and still says pay alm and not pay out
but when disconnecting the hopper it regigters all coins and drops them to the bottom untill i connect the hopper then nothing then all drop to pay area
same message with hopper on or disconnected pay alm but when disconnecting the hopper ony get the pay alm and hopper???? bnv???? but not coin mech???? but when all connectted get pay alm coin mech???? hopper???? bnv????
thanks

buy the way if u thinks its the hopper
does anyone know were i can by on from
cheers people for your help