Time to Admit

silent g · Post by **silent g** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:19 pm

UNITED FTW!

messiah · Post by **messiah** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:14 pm

Nixxy wrote:Incomparable if you ask me.

United won their first title under Ferguson and spent the proceeds on better players, and built a successful brand based on things they won under the stewardship of a clever manager. Hence their investments have gotten larger in line with their achievements. Their spending ability does partly come from wealthy backers but massively from their club-built success.

Ferguson spent massive amounts for the time for years before winning anything:

Pallister, Ince, Hughes, Keane were all bought for multi-millions.

Then you have the high amounts spent on the rest of the squad (Cantona, Bruce, McClair etc)

Ferguson bought the title for Man Utd the same way Blackburn and Chelsea did. He just took a bit longer.

BFK · Post by **BFK** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:40 pm

Hardly.

Your forgetting the likes of Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Sharpe, Phil and Gary Neville who were all regulars coming into play when united started their domination of the premier league.

Add in clever and not always expensive buys like Cantona, Schmeichel, Pallister, Keane and Bruce and there was a nice blend of youth and purchases.

Thats nothing like what City have done and indeed what Blackburn did back in 1995.

deano8177 · Post by **deano8177** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:44 pm

Well said

mjd · Post by **mjd** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:28 pm

agreed!

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:27 pm

Cantona was a mill?

deano8177 · Post by **deano8177** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:43 pm

Cantona in his day was a great player, I still think now that if he was not at united when he was we would not be where we are today.

MrRed · Post by **MrRed** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:53 pm

They'd still be in Manchester surely

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:01 pm

....and their supporters would still be elsewhere!

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:22 pm

Leeds only flogged him cos he was allegedly shagging Leslie ash. The wife of better thought of Lee chapman

Nixxy · Post by **Nixxy** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:40 pm

messiah wrote:Ferguson spent massive amounts for the time for years before winning anything:

Pallister, Ince, Hughes, Keane were all bought for multi-millions.

Then you have the high amounts spent on the rest of the squad (Cantona, Bruce, McClair etc)

Ferguson bought the title for Man Utd the same way Blackburn and Chelsea did. He just took a bit longer.

Cor blimey, me and Kesh seem to be agreeing on something here ....

Ferguson never splashed the cash in the way you describe, Messiah - as Pallister (still at Middlesbrough), Ince (still at West Ham), Keane (still at Forest) and co hadn't even arrived when the success story started. Bruce was brought in from Gillingham after being told he wouldn't make it as a footballer.

It was club-built success based on average players becoming a formidable team at no great expense, being watched by huge crowds bolstering the income. It started with winning cups and moved on to winning leagues.

The income from the success and the resulting revenues earned him the ability to be able to pay larger salaries but even then he's still managed to develop much of the squad from within the club.

As a Fulham fan I may not like watching Utd win but from a distance, I can't avoid acknowledging and admiring how it was done.

CrosbyRules · Post by **CrosbyRules** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:02 am

fuck me, we have alot of members from manchester on here

deano8177 · Post by **deano8177** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:26 am

There's probaly more Norwich fans/people from Norwich on here than united fans.

Anyway I'm a glory hunter, that's why I travel the country for fruit machines. I'm always after glory.

BFK · Post by **BFK** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:37 am

Nixxy wrote:
messiah wrote:Ferguson spent massive amounts for the time for years before winning anything:

Pallister, Ince, Hughes, Keane were all bought for multi-millions.

Then you have the high amounts spent on the rest of the squad (Cantona, Bruce, McClair etc)

Ferguson bought the title for Man Utd the same way Blackburn and Chelsea did. He just took a bit longer.
Cor blimey, me and Kesh seem to be agreeing on something here ....

Ferguson never splashed the cash in the way you describe, Messiah - as Pallister (still at Middlesbrough), Ince (still at West Ham), Keane (still at Forest) and co hadn't even arrived when the success story started. Bruce was brought in from Gillingham after being told he wouldn't make it as a footballer.

It was club-built success based on average players becoming a formidable team at no great expense, being watched by huge crowds bolstering the income. It started with winning cups and moved on to winning leagues.

The income from the success and the resulting revenues earned him the ability to be able to pay larger salaries but even then he's still managed to develop much of the squad from within the club.

As a Fulham fan I may not like watching Utd win but from a distance, I can't avoid acknowledging and admiring how it was done.

For the 100th time I'm NOT kesh!!

Bruce was purchased from Norwich I believe for either £800k or £825k.

messiah · Post by **messiah** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:10 pm

The amounts spent were large at the time - look at what other clubs were spending around the time.

The total amount was something that only 1 or 2 clubs were able of spending.

Scholes, beckham, the nevilles all came into the team after the first title had been won.

And what is the relevance where these players were playing before - Keane was a standout first division star when playing for Forest etc.