Fruit Machine Chat

straw poll.

Who are you intending on voting for and why?

personally, I've always been a Lib / Lab floating voter.
I've always voted Labour because Lib Dem was pretty much a wasted vote.
However, since Cleggy took over and obviously, since the TV debates helped legitimised the party in the eyes of so many other would be Liberal voters, I'm happy to stick my X next to the local Lib Dem candidate,

lib dems ditto. was gonna go conservative before i saw the live debates .
i dont give a hoot about having a nuclear deterant the money would be better spent elsewhere.

i don't think think they can win the gig this time but they can next time.

The stance on Trident is a big plus for me with the Lib Dems too.

pokerpete wrote:The stance on Trident is a big plus for me with the Lib Dems too.

Yes i agree with lib dems on this too. Also i dont think the UK has the ability to nuke anyone anyway at least not without the U.S. giving the ok. Something to do with us having to use U.S. missiles to launch the nuclear warheads. Since we dont have missiles capable of delivering nuclear bombs.

time and time again you players fall for it, these MP's dont give a shit about you, they work for the banking cartels - Rockfellers Rochschilds

Clegg/Brown/Cameron are just puppets of the New World Order.
Whoevers elected PM won't make the slighest of difference, more taxes, more threats to Iran, more job loses.


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pokerpete wrote:I've always voted Labour because Lib Dem was pretty much a wasted vote

Pokerpete - I know you'll give me an honest answer to an honest question, so answer me this: Why do you take the view that a LibDem vote (or a vote for anyone else for that matter) is/was a wasted vote?

Surely you should vote for the party with the policies that most closely match your wants and needs. If everyone took the 'wasted vote' stance, no-one would ever feel capable of voting for anyone other than Lab/Con.

"I Chippd 863 Amzings last year, vote for me so i can do it again"

VOTE GAMESTECH

mikej82 wrote:time and time again you players fall for it, these MP's dont give a shit about you, they work for the banking cartels - Rockfellers Rochschilds

Clegg/Brown/Cameron are just puppets of the New World Order.
Whoevers elected PM won't make the slighest of difference, more taxes, more threats to Iran, more job loses.


Something very bad will happen

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Nixxy wrote:

pokerpete wrote:I've always voted Labour because Lib Dem was pretty much a wasted vote

Pokerpete - I know you'll give me an honest answer to an honest question, so answer me this: Why do you take the view that a LibDem vote (or a vote for anyone else for that matter) is/was a wasted vote?

Surely you should vote for the party with the policies that most closely match your wants and needs. If everyone took the 'wasted vote' stance, no-one would ever feel capable of voting for anyone other than Lab/Con.

Well it's a bit more complicated than that.

I am a moderate socialist.
I'm also socially liberal. every time I've taken vote caster questionaires over the last four elections I come out around 60% Lib 40% Lab 0% Con

I live in a Pure blue town so in the current first past the post system, getting anyone else in is very unlikely. My first general election was 92 and for those that think we're living in hard times now, you're either too young to have been in the job and housing markets under the Tories, or you have very short memories.

In the new labour boom, there might have been half a chance of a labour candidate at least running it close, but never a liberal so my vote for Labour was tactical and not completely against my personal political stance.

However, even before the TV debate, Cleggy had made me more likely to vote Lib Dem. Now there's a movement in favour of him and his party, it makes me confident enough to tell people that. They clearly can't get a majority, but second place is a distinct possibility and despite the fear mongering, I believe a hung parliment will be a good thing. Especially one with a healthy liberal voice.

It's been liberal here for a long time so I will be voting for them. The guy's done a lot of good here so long may it last.
Council voting though...Now whoever's in charge there is not getting my vote.

"I am a moderate socialist".

Do you not realise that you are witnessing exactly why socialism does not and cannot work in a liberal democracy?

Unfortunately I moved house at the turn of the year and haven’t registered to vote. Otherwise I would be voting Conservative.

The reason being that we have least chance of going bankrupt under a Conservative rule, although the damage may have already been done.

BNP because it will be a laugh if they actually get nominated

to isolate one manifesto promise (often an empty politician's promise) or to base your voting intention on the relative likeability of the leaders is at best foolish and, at worst irresponsible. when you understand the manifestos and the situation in your own constituency, vote for the party in which you have belief. that is the correct vote for you in this democracy. we have a duty to be selfish in that polling booth. if you really don't want any of them in, you can deliberately spoil your ballot by drawing a crude phallus or whatever. by electoral law, spoiled ballots have to be counted as willful abstinence so it is actually a very powerful decision.

any hung parliament will be a disaster of in-fighting between opposed egos, which can't possibly benefit this country. but we can't vote for that, it would just be a very unfortunate outcome of cretinous voting from those who got RATM to number one and think anarchism is clever.

there is a lot to be said for looking back at previous governments and whether they have been able to deliver on manifesto promises.

if clegg did get in, which he won't, he would not be allowed to "get rid of trident" it exists and is an integral part of intercontinental entente. he just knows that it is a likely vote-winner amongst people who can't be bothered to understand the facts.

i know which colour is my favourite, i am not in the position to be electioneering but i know that i am right in who gets my little pencilled cross.

milk monitor wrote:"I am a moderate socialist".

Do you not realise that you are witnessing exactly why socialism does not and cannot work in a liberal democracy?

Unfortunately I moved house at the turn of the year and haven’t registered to vote. Otherwise I would be voting Conservative.

The reason being that we have least chance of going bankrupt under a Conservative rule, although the damage may have already been done.

do you mind me asking how old you were when labour got in, in '97?

The reason I ask is that when I left school in the 80s the country was a mess. Higher unemployment than now (despite how Cameron spins the figures) a health service in ruins, elitist education system, interest rates of 15%+ on your mortgage.

The tories build the system that caused this crisis. Brown's mistake was not limiting the power that the banks had been given.

the last 13 years have been extremely prosperous. The recession we're in is largely down to people over exposing themselves to debt.

We certainly need a change. Goverment has got TOO big for my liking, although I prefer not to have to manage every aspect of my life. I work hard and earn decent money. I don't want to have to micro manage things like my kids school and my health insurance. I believe that society works better when everyone specialises.

HorseRacingKing wrote:BNP because it will be a laugh if they actually get nominated

"If they get nominated"

It's not Big Brother

you're a troll, so I'm not going to get into it with you.