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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:19 pm
by silent g
UNITED FTW!
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:14 pm
by messiah
Nixxy wrote:Incomparable if you ask me.
United won their first title under Ferguson and spent the proceeds on better players, and built a successful brand based on things they won under the stewardship of a clever manager. Hence their investments have gotten larger in line with their achievements. Their spending ability does partly come from wealthy backers but massively from their club-built success.
Ferguson spent massive amounts for the time for years before winning anything:
Pallister, Ince, Hughes, Keane were all bought for multi-millions.
Then you have the high amounts spent on the rest of the squad (Cantona, Bruce, McClair etc)
Ferguson bought the title for Man Utd the same way Blackburn and Chelsea did. He just took a bit longer.
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:40 pm
by BFK
Hardly.
Your forgetting the likes of Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Sharpe, Phil and Gary Neville who were all regulars coming into play when united started their domination of the premier league.
Add in clever and not always expensive buys like Cantona, Schmeichel, Pallister, Keane and Bruce and there was a nice blend of youth and purchases.
Thats nothing like what City have done and indeed what Blackburn did back in 1995.
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:44 pm
by deano8177
Well said
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:28 pm
by mjd
agreed!
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:27 pm
by betchrider
Cantona was a mill?
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:43 pm
by deano8177
Cantona in his day was a great player, I still think now that if he was not at united when he was we would not be where we are today.
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:53 pm
by MrRed
They'd still be in Manchester surely
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:01 pm
by mr lugsy
....and their supporters would still be elsewhere!
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:22 pm
by betchrider
Leeds only flogged him cos he was allegedly shagging Leslie ash. The wife of better thought of Lee chapman
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:40 pm
by Nixxy
messiah wrote:Ferguson spent massive amounts for the time for years before winning anything:
Pallister, Ince, Hughes, Keane were all bought for multi-millions.
Then you have the high amounts spent on the rest of the squad (Cantona, Bruce, McClair etc)
Ferguson bought the title for Man Utd the same way Blackburn and Chelsea did. He just took a bit longer.
Cor blimey, me and Kesh seem to be agreeing on something here ....
Ferguson never splashed the cash in the way you describe, Messiah - as Pallister (still at Middlesbrough), Ince (still at West Ham), Keane (still at Forest) and co hadn't even arrived when the success story started. Bruce was brought in from Gillingham after being told he wouldn't make it as a footballer.
It was club-built success based on average players becoming a formidable team at no great expense, being watched by huge crowds bolstering the income. It started with winning cups and moved on to winning leagues.
The income from the success and the resulting revenues earned him the ability to be able to pay larger salaries but even then he's still managed to develop much of the squad from within the club.
As a Fulham fan I may not like watching Utd win but from a distance, I can't avoid acknowledging and admiring how it was done.
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:02 am
by CrosbyRules
fuck me, we have alot of members from manchester on here
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:26 am
by deano8177
There's probaly more Norwich fans/people from Norwich on here than united fans.
Anyway I'm a glory hunter, that's why I travel the country for fruit machines. I'm always after glory.
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:37 am
by BFK
Nixxy wrote:messiah wrote:Ferguson spent massive amounts for the time for years before winning anything:
Pallister, Ince, Hughes, Keane were all bought for multi-millions.
Then you have the high amounts spent on the rest of the squad (Cantona, Bruce, McClair etc)
Ferguson bought the title for Man Utd the same way Blackburn and Chelsea did. He just took a bit longer.
Cor blimey, me and Kesh seem to be agreeing on something here ....
Ferguson never splashed the cash in the way you describe, Messiah - as Pallister (still at Middlesbrough), Ince (still at West Ham), Keane (still at Forest) and co hadn't even arrived when the success story started. Bruce was brought in from Gillingham after being told he wouldn't make it as a footballer.
It was club-built success based on average players becoming a formidable team at no great expense, being watched by huge crowds bolstering the income. It started with winning cups and moved on to winning leagues.
The income from the success and the resulting revenues earned him the ability to be able to pay larger salaries but even then he's still managed to develop much of the squad from within the club.
As a Fulham fan I may not like watching Utd win but from a distance, I can't avoid acknowledging and admiring how it was done.
For the 100th time I'm NOT kesh!!
Bruce was purchased from Norwich I believe for either £800k or £825k.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:10 pm
by messiah
The amounts spent were large at the time - look at what other clubs were spending around the time.
The total amount was something that only 1 or 2 clubs were able of spending.
Scholes, beckham, the nevilles all came into the team after the first title had been won.
And what is the relevance where these players were playing before - Keane was a standout first division star when playing for Forest etc.