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Reflex Gaming

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:09 am
by PMK
Anyone else played these new rather stiff profile machines from reflex?? Cant for the life of me remember the name of the one I played last night, but its based on Grandslam, where by you get wins on the bottom and then gamble then on the top reels at a max of £2 a spin??

First board went to £20+ so decided to get stuck in as I remembered older reflex profiles could go a little bit loopy from pots, gave it a quick key it was £190 off but the changer was still on!!

Anyway, bout £70 in for a jackpot which repeated to £210!!! It payed it all out as well so these must have large hoppers!!

And even more strangely, it was in a pub!!!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:16 am
by gambogaz1
This the one ?

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Thanks to Bazpeep for the pic.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:27 am
by thecannonball89
seen a few of those this week!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:50 am
by Mystery_Plum
Reminds me of Reel Money just by looking at it, a JPM game from 1997 in the same cabinet as Roller Coaster.

£210 repeat on the jackpot? That's a bit naughty really. The new regs state 3 repeats maximum (£140 total).

Tut tut.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:19 am
by PMK
Yeah thats the one mate, wonder what the hopper level is???

£140 max? Since when? GGG/Monops often go WAY past that.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:55 pm
by Mystery_Plum
Those are legacy machines (they came in before the new Gambling Act), like Project's Find the Lady, which can repeat 9 or 10 times on the jackpot. Any Cat C machine made after Sept 1st 2007 (when the new Gambling Act came in) must allow no more than a maximum of 3 repeats on the jackpot. Reflex are either taking the piss, or they have found a way round the regs.

Or this machine is a legacy machine.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:15 pm
by PMK
Well I never!!

Are these legacy machines allowed in pubs then? I just presumed it was a standard kind of lo-tec if you like. Although weird having that type of machine in said environment.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:37 pm
by Mystery_Plum
Any Cat C game is allowed in a pub. Under the new Act, any Cat C game made before September 2007 is classed as a 'legacy' machine, as it may have stuff in it that abides by the old Act, but is non-compliant with the new Act. Half the games you see in most service stations (old DONDs, non-Horizon cab Barcrests, anything on £25 jackpot) are all 'legacy' machines.

Now though, all new games must comply with the new Act (1.5 second minimum game time, maximum of three repeats on a jackpot, GamCare disclaimers and so on).

That game is a strange one to have in a pub, but as long as it takes money then the more the merrier :)

If it's an old 'legacy' machine then it's OK. But if it's a new game (post September 2007) then it must comply with the latest Gambling Act regulations, meaning that £210 repeat is 'against the spirit of the Act'. Mind you, I wouldn't be complaining :)

Naughty Reflex :o ops:

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:39 pm
by ob
cost me £150+ for a jp and repeated once, general gameplay was awful, ie. it goes to £25-30 for ages and ages then keeps going to £0, and then when you eventually get it all it did was spin in £8 and do bonus cash to £35.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:22 pm
by Mattb
Looks a lot like JPM club red hot 6 etc to me. Never saw the appeal myself, but there you go.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:13 pm
by PMK
Mystery_Plum wrote:.

Now though, all new games must comply with the new Act (1.5 second minimum game time, maximum of three repeats on a jackpot, GamCare disclaimers and so on).
1.5 seconds - That must be why the newer reds take longer on Mega spin. Its painfully slow.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:24 pm
by Matt Vinyl
Mega Spins - slow. I found that if you tap the start button gently but reasonably fast, it speeds them up to 'almost' the old style. Only sometimes, and only on some machines it seems.

Agree though, painfully slow sometimes... :(

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:10 pm
by Max
In reply to Red Hot 6...I play this every couple of weeks in my local Rileys. This is a club machine by the way. Its not bad, and I usually make around £20 out of it, but have got stung once for £80ish.

These are quite easy to read, if u see someone put £20 in for no return, I'd say there was a quick steal there most of the time. And also this supports a type of swap-hold on your third hold (on the top reels). Doubt this is sensitive, but you can swap your holds, obviuosly on a £250 machine this can be quite good. BUT sometimes it will let you hold just one reel and spin in the maximum possible win. When its not in quite so genreous a mood then it will 'override' which hold you have selected, and spin in what the 3rd hold would have naturally have given you. If that makes sense.

Anyone trid this on the new one?

max

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:04 am
by fightstar
Have this machine near me, boring as fuck to play coats loads to get any win, then it never spins in wins up top bit anyway

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:47 am
by Dunhamzzz
Got this. Only dared to forced twice 35 + 70 both cost less than that.

I will surely force if full for the huuuuuuuge repeat :)