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Yep Gary spot on for the £35s. However another school of thought agrees with SG for the £70s. I don't, I reckon it's random 1p-£40 with chance of £70 if available. Then again there's plenty who'd agree with SG about the happier it is, the more likely you'll see £20/35/£70/Mega Prize.
I've not played them enough, bar HOFs and I know on them that 2*£70 bar 'IM then £70' is not possible, well I've not seen it over many £1000s played through.
I'd suspect Crazy Chair+ is all the same, based on discussions with people who do go in for them.
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Post by ob »

The boxes on all dond having spoke to programmers are random with weights, ie. £70/mega is a lower weighting to shit boxes. The weights are different on different dond's, ie. its ur show/italianjob etc. have a much lower weighting on the £70 box than say perfect game or other newer ones....

It's not to say any of them can give £70 at any point, it's just a question of getting lucky, just that some of them require more "luck" than others.

I find it hard to believe anyone would be stupid enough to think that £70 is as likely as 1p, especially on older conversions where it is blatently obviously not the case!!!
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ob: I'll go along with that. ;)

Not that anyone really needs it explaining (I hope!) but I guess it would be an expanded version of:

1 - 1p
2 - 1p
3 - 1p
4 - 1p
5 - 1p
6 - 10p
7 - 10p

etc...

505 - £20
506 - £20
507 - £35
508 - £35
509 - £70
510 - MS

Then a random number between 1 and 510 is selected. These spreads may be adjusted in some of the games dependant on the pot save, etc.
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Dead p5 about 20k behind, 20 20 15 4 10 20 8 35. proves its random
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Not to turn this into another one of those 'explaining random' debates, but...

There is such a thing as 'weighted randomness' - as ob and I chatted about above. ;)

Did you ever have a flying P5 only for all the games to yield blues, out of interest?
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So yeah... I think a MFTB would be a good feature in the DOND game, though complex.

I love how these threads go off topic. :P
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before i knew about all this random stuff i used to think the game was fixed, then i thought the machine would choose a box based on what it can afford to pay. if it can afford to pay £40, then choose a box £40 or less, if its dead and can only pay £10, then choose the £10 box or so randomly, etc. ... now ... im not so sure
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Nope, not the case. The box selected doesn't generally reflect readiness, its just if you get a £70 box when its not ready or red boxing and not ready, it'll just screw up the board afte for £50+ until its recouped.
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I played a CC the other week.
MS, 6X 70, 3 X20 and the rest were £2ish

First offer of £27...

It still managed to give me the £2 box, lol
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Post by anfield road »

empty stoppers on 30p with the boxes and p5s proves its random, obvisouly being programmed along the lines..... but nothing too do with how well its playing otherwise a stopper and p5 being like £10k behind would be hitting 1p surely

Random on the £70s aswel
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anfield road wrote:empty stoppers on 30p with the boxes and p5s proves its random, obvisouly being programmed along the lines..... but nothing too do with how well its playing otherwise a stopper and p5 being like £10k behind would be hitting 1p surely

Random on the £70s aswel
Agree with the older stuff but not totally convinced about some of the 70's. We'll never know for sure.
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who plays these shit deals anyway, and whos even got p5s or dials? unless you live in NI
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Mattb wrote:Nope, not the case. The box selected doesn't generally reflect readiness, its just if you get a £70 box when its not ready or red boxing and not ready, it'll just screw up the board afte for £50+ until its recouped.
yea, which is a stupid way of doing it imo. fair enough it should be random, but should only offer the max it can afford.
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Post by DJJamesMtn »

What about the Phones game on Monopoly Boom or Bust where you have to accumulate the values on the board? Surely that's not random?

But if, say, the phones board has £35, £1 and £5 all lit up, there's every chance it'll give a £35 box?
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thecannonball89 wrote:who plays these shit deals anyway, and whos even got p5s or dials? unless you live in NI
You jealous of my dials jack lol
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