Telling you what you already know. Part II.

jpfuk · Post by **jpfuk** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:39 pm

Cant you play phone game for mega prize instead of lapper board for regular ms?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:43 am

it probably depends how you get the IM, the only way of being forced the mega that i can think of is finishing the red boxes via multi add... then it giving the last red phone

maybe they messed up, or werent bothered... mega streak or prize, just light up different lights.. althpough id definitely gone for the dond top, never seen one yet.

JG · Post by JG » Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:56 pm

Cheers Barry, seems they can go above the board block via CoB, although I'd suggest that it was very close to offering phones anyway, if not next board, board after...

I guess a few moody deals and at 70% you really need to walk otherwise you're hoping for a GATW or a £40 board from phones, good £40/£70/£MEGA from phones.

Not the best machines although there is an emptier on it, as there is on practically everything. At the moment I only have the one emptier, disregarding clones and it's not PG. 4sbdja 7shsks 89sjnsshs 88sjsiusks "//slick &ampersandbanjonatterjacktoadgoulash 6fffsta is a small clue. Of my utter madness. On 5p/£5 94% you could empty my Flashback legitamately by playing boards to optimum value, it just lets you on too often, even on its deadest profile, it's all about knowing when to milk and when to push on for stop 'n step for those £3 strawberries. Also it took me about two years to empty a £50 hopper, so I filled it up, forced all out and it cost me £96 for the forced flash which did pay £20.

Barry Trotter · Post by **Barry Trotter** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:06 am

Talking of emptiers - i once emptied an entire bottle of magners into my mouth, followed by another three after that. Within 15 minutes, i was the best fruit machine player in the night club, although for some reason i must have left all of my winnings in the paytray/bank/drunken fat bird that was chatting me up.

On a slightly different note - does anyone else get the impression that no one at BFG ever test plays their games before they go out?

Has anyone EVER had three phones in view on DOND Gold on £1 play? Or do you just always get nudges to reel wins? No BFG make the worst games out there?... Oh, i know there are DOND's everywhere, but they do all play like a bag of spanners... they aren't good games to play...

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:18 am

i'm trying to think of something positive to say about bell fruit.......

maybe i can find some propaganda on their website.

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:24 am

here's a little snippet of pure gold.

Bell-Fruit Games aims to be known and recognized as a centre of excellence and innovation that consistently generates more successful games than any other company in the UK and Europe. In order to achieve objectives the company is committed to recruiting and developing the best people and supporting this innovation with efficient, responsive manufacturing and marketing operations.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:49 am

translation ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, jpm and barcrest once ruled the roost ,,,,,,,, but we invented something called the flat profile ,,,,,, no matter how much you pump it ,,,, we made sure that you only win 3 quid (4 if red),,,,,,, and for pro's ,,,,,,, we want roughly 130 quid for a flat 70,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thats why were the most successful ,,,,,,,GREED,,,,,,, not innovation ,

jb13 · Post by **jb13** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:58 am

trayhop123 wrote:translation ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, jpm and barcrest once ruled the roost ,,,,,,,, but we invented something called the flat profile ,,,,,, no matter how much you pump it ,,,, we made sure that you only win 3 quid (4 if red),,,,,,, and for pro's ,,,,,,, we want roughly 130 quid for a flat 70,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thats why were the most successful ,,,,,,,GREED,,,,,,, not innovation ,

To be fair I fucking hate Bell Fruits, however ALL machines run to percentage...just because YOU can't win it doesn't mean Joe public can't.
These machines are for the casual player, who at the end of the day contribute more to the cashbox than either me or you.

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:04 am

your right .

to be honest ,,,,,,,,,,, if i was md of bfg then i wouldn't run things to cater for pro's either .

bottom line its a business first and foremost ,,,,,,,,,,,, aimed at its target demographic ,,,,,,, the clueless masses .

were just professional fly's in their ointment .

talking from a business perspective ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if i was in charge ,,,,,,, i would have blown us lot out the game years ago ,,,,, with pub randoms.

Barry Trotter · Post by **Barry Trotter** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:19 pm

trayhop123 wrote:translation ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, jpm and barcrest once ruled the roost ,,,,,,,, but we invented something called the flat profile ,,,,,, no matter how much you pump it ,,,, we made sure that you only win 3 quid (4 if red),,,,,,, and for pro's ,,,,,,, we want roughly 130 quid for a flat 70,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thats why were the most successful ,,,,,,,GREED,,,,,,, not innovation ,

YOU (assuming you do work for BFG) invented the flat profile did you?
Even if you did (which you didn't), you didn't rule the roost by doing it. The flat profile came (Snake, Rattle & Roll) and went when Red Gaming started doing well. Many profiles have done well over the years.

DOND's are not flat profiles. If you can play on £1 a go, and regularly get 4 x £2 boards on the trot (which is fucking obscene, btw) then you do not have a flat profile. That is lumpy. End of. When you make a profile that works on a game that isn't DOND, then i will credit you with decent game designers/programmers/testers, Until then, just admit that you are cashing in on an amazing licence with (mostly) poor games.

BTW - you did actually do a good profile on one of the DOND games. Shame thats the profile you chose not to use on anything else!

From a business point of view, however, i totally agree with the path BFG have taken, and would do the same given similar circumstances...

Rant over!

trayhop123 · Post by **trayhop123** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:09 pm

twas sarcasm barry ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i dont work for anyone ,,,,,,,,,, im a full time player ,,,

ffs somebody post asci man

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:17 pm

I think Barry was talking to 'any BFM' who were reading, not you personally mate... ...or did I get it wrong?

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Stopnstep · Post by **Stopnstep** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:34 am

trayhop123 wrote:translation ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, jpm and barcrest once ruled the roost ,,,,,,,, but we invented something called the flat profile ,,,,,, no matter how much you pump it ,,,, we made sure that you only win 3 quid (4 if red),,,,,,, and for pro's ,,,,,,, we want roughly 130 quid for a flat 70,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thats why were the most successful ,,,,,,,GREED,,,,,,, not innovation ,

Think it was the "we invented" part, Barry couldn't of got the fact that tray was taking the piss out of the post above.

Barry Trotter · Post by **Barry Trotter** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:37 pm

Stopnstep wrote:
trayhop123 wrote:translation ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, jpm and barcrest once ruled the roost ,,,,,,,, but we invented something called the flat profile ,,,,,, no matter how much you pump it ,,,, we made sure that you only win 3 quid (4 if red),,,,,,, and for pro's ,,,,,,, we want roughly 130 quid for a flat 70,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, thats why were the most successful ,,,,,,,GREED,,,,,,, not innovation ,
Think it was the "we invented" part, Barry couldn't of got the fact that tray was taking the piss out of the post above.

From his previous posts i'd figured he didn't work for BFG

However, the rant was directed at anyone who DOES work at BFG, has worked there, is thinking of working there, has driven past the factory, or has breathed any air that may have been near their factory.

PS - Got any jobs BFG, i could do with one

mr lugsy · Post by **mr lugsy** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:57 pm

if i was them barry ,i'd put you on the payroll just to stop the anti bellfruit postings........hmm and j.g....ob......and just about everyone else on here lol.