i must admit the first time i ever saw this m/c and it was red at the top i thought jp staight away, now i've seen these in various pubs and know its feck all i don't give it a 2nd look. i'm sure it has made a few people take note at first.... maybe thats why they did ittheoak wrote:jeez, how can you not work this out!? its the same on all clones too.Martal~Wombat wrote:can anybody explain why the money magic
name goes red sometimes at the top?
Its drivin me mad, as this usually means IM
on other m/cs but not the case on these????????
I dont actually play them but seen it on several occasions...
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I know a lot of you don't like these kinds of machines, but like a few others, I'm finding them not bad since I started playing them fairly regularly.
Bucks Bunny, forcing and I got a normal top feature for £25, next feature was IM and went for £50. First question, can a top feature trigger an IM or was I just lucky?
Today, same machine different location, IM out of the blue mid force, for £100. I'm forcing these at the moment if £5 cash is showing, or if it let's me into the inner board and haven't had any disasters so far.
I guess I need someone to tell me what the worst case scenario is, how much *could* a foce cost if it goes pear shaped ?
Bucks Bunny, forcing and I got a normal top feature for £25, next feature was IM and went for £50. First question, can a top feature trigger an IM or was I just lucky?
Today, same machine different location, IM out of the blue mid force, for £100. I'm forcing these at the moment if £5 cash is showing, or if it let's me into the inner board and haven't had any disasters so far.
I guess I need someone to tell me what the worst case scenario is, how much *could* a foce cost if it goes pear shaped ?
Confucius say "man who know wombat know more than stupid looking monkey"
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JTRAR and Buck's Bunny are quite different games in the way they work. They appear similar but most definitely are not.
When I first saw a BTQ (Billy The Quid, clone of Buck's Bunny) I played it and disliked it. Short term play was harsh and I soon found myself forcing. After losing £30 messing about trying to get a bit of loose change the force cost me £90 more for a flat £25. A couple more £25s for £25. Then I was £140 in for £25 back. £150 in for back to back £25s and a £10 that repeated and then reasonable afters but got sucked back for £35 for a board that gambled up (this was on 30p play)!! Finished up about a 1'er down after it was completely full up.
I found the one in the bookies usually cost about £70ish to force out, so you needed the £75+ streak to make it worth your while.
It can throw in the odd £10 central board out the blue. Not the easiest force.
I had one that looked good. £20 in from just giving £2/£3 and I got the reel stepper off bonus, jackpot was there and it gambled to BTQ for a totally random £50! Afters was moderate to fair. That was on 72% as well.
The one in the bookies did do £75 'out the blue' from a flash when showing. Had the £70 in for £25 then flash for £75 a few times. Never seen the legendary £125.
In short they're not totally predictable. It'll usually go, but it can hold back and take the piss for a couple of hundred I'd say.
Crazy Horse Cash isn't jackpot either, about £8-£12.
When I first saw a BTQ (Billy The Quid, clone of Buck's Bunny) I played it and disliked it. Short term play was harsh and I soon found myself forcing. After losing £30 messing about trying to get a bit of loose change the force cost me £90 more for a flat £25. A couple more £25s for £25. Then I was £140 in for £25 back. £150 in for back to back £25s and a £10 that repeated and then reasonable afters but got sucked back for £35 for a board that gambled up (this was on 30p play)!! Finished up about a 1'er down after it was completely full up.
I found the one in the bookies usually cost about £70ish to force out, so you needed the £75+ streak to make it worth your while.
It can throw in the odd £10 central board out the blue. Not the easiest force.
I had one that looked good. £20 in from just giving £2/£3 and I got the reel stepper off bonus, jackpot was there and it gambled to BTQ for a totally random £50! Afters was moderate to fair. That was on 72% as well.
The one in the bookies did do £75 'out the blue' from a flash when showing. Had the £70 in for £25 then flash for £75 a few times. Never seen the legendary £125.
In short they're not totally predictable. It'll usually go, but it can hold back and take the piss for a couple of hundred I'd say.
Crazy Horse Cash isn't jackpot either, about £8-£12.
Back to MM, hit a completely lucky pot on a new £35 one of these here today. I got stop those reels on a bonus, and was sure some diagonal £10 red sevens were there....hit it and i had pot lined up diagonally the other way!
It was playing like a pig in the 2 boards i'd had beofre, so i took the £35 and left a nice £27 up 
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Evening all,
I just managed to make £8 (yes, an amazing sum i know) off one of these that went bananas after i was miles down. If you can be bothered, do read on....
Full, first board was £4rpt red and £9 middle. Thought i'd chase as it seemed worthwhile. Got Red MM after about £30 in, which went flat. Still very ready after, rechased and got a normal MM offered when i was about £50 into it. Flat again. Soon after it was still flying, and offered big money and jack potter which i refused. That board died, then the piss take started. It went dead for a long time. By the time i was about a ton in it offered the good stuff again, but wouldn't get MM. Then at around the £120 point i got spun a 2 on my first board spin. At last i though. MM wasn't red, so i got to a bonus to hi/lo to red hot. Well, it only lost on the 3rd gamble didn't it!
:x I could have put a brick through the machine at that point, never EVER seen it lose on the silent IM board.
At exactly £146 in, i got a board which landed on a few ? marks, all said survive. Another silent IM, but this time it didn't die hi/loing for reds. Got red MM which did a £75. I got another board literally £2 later, which spun me a 2 first hit. Nice touch i though, i'll get a ton back at least, and it won't be as much of a beating. It only went and did £75 too didn't it! My arse well and truly saved by a bolt from the blue back to back £75 £150 roll. Got a £9 wizards wealth and £4 for afters, which eventually ended with me leaving £8 up. You can't begin to describe a rollercoaster of emotions for that one, ultimate low to ultimate high in a couple of minutes. Must be bad for your health, surely!
I just managed to make £8 (yes, an amazing sum i know) off one of these that went bananas after i was miles down. If you can be bothered, do read on....
Full, first board was £4rpt red and £9 middle. Thought i'd chase as it seemed worthwhile. Got Red MM after about £30 in, which went flat. Still very ready after, rechased and got a normal MM offered when i was about £50 into it. Flat again. Soon after it was still flying, and offered big money and jack potter which i refused. That board died, then the piss take started. It went dead for a long time. By the time i was about a ton in it offered the good stuff again, but wouldn't get MM. Then at around the £120 point i got spun a 2 on my first board spin. At last i though. MM wasn't red, so i got to a bonus to hi/lo to red hot. Well, it only lost on the 3rd gamble didn't it!
At exactly £146 in, i got a board which landed on a few ? marks, all said survive. Another silent IM, but this time it didn't die hi/loing for reds. Got red MM which did a £75. I got another board literally £2 later, which spun me a 2 first hit. Nice touch i though, i'll get a ton back at least, and it won't be as much of a beating. It only went and did £75 too didn't it! My arse well and truly saved by a bolt from the blue back to back £75 £150 roll. Got a £9 wizards wealth and £4 for afters, which eventually ended with me leaving £8 up. You can't begin to describe a rollercoaster of emotions for that one, ultimate low to ultimate high in a couple of minutes. Must be bad for your health, surely!
"Sixty percent of the time, it works, every time!"
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Playing this the other evening, I forced out for a normal MM which gave £35.
I can't remember if the next board went to a ? first but anyway it went straight to the middle board and just rotated around adding up until the cashpot hit £25. Couldn't get any other signs to see if it was IM and tbh, would have missed the silent IM even if I'd got the ? off the first spin because I haven't quite digested that info yet. Was sorely tempted to carry on after it chucked me out the middle board when it maxed at £25 but that game over square could have shafted me.
I can't remember if the next board went to a ? first but anyway it went straight to the middle board and just rotated around adding up until the cashpot hit £25. Couldn't get any other signs to see if it was IM and tbh, would have missed the silent IM even if I'd got the ? off the first spin because I haven't quite digested that info yet. Was sorely tempted to carry on after it chucked me out the middle board when it maxed at £25 but that game over square could have shafted me.
Confucius say "man who know wombat know more than stupid looking monkey"
A month or two back, I was well over a hundred quid into a Gold Rush which I thought was in a good mood and it finally gave a top which went for £105.
'That's Your Lot!!', it said ...
the very next spin rolled in the 3 red boxes and IM'd for an extra £35, leaving me with a £20-ish profit.
This then happened a few weeks later on a JTRAR, nice - I thought.
Yesterday, I was banging my head against a brick wall on a Money Magic: almost £150 into it when the lifesaving £105 wandered along. Again very next spin, red boxes for another obvious red top feature - except this one went for £70.
So by my calculations, I spent about an hour pumping £148 into it only for it to pay 5 Jackpots in five consecutive credits. £2.50 stake/£175 streak.
Anyone else seen this red-boxes-after-top-feature phenomenon?
'That's Your Lot!!', it said ...
the very next spin rolled in the 3 red boxes and IM'd for an extra £35, leaving me with a £20-ish profit.
This then happened a few weeks later on a JTRAR, nice - I thought.
Yesterday, I was banging my head against a brick wall on a Money Magic: almost £150 into it when the lifesaving £105 wandered along. Again very next spin, red boxes for another obvious red top feature - except this one went for £70.
So by my calculations, I spent about an hour pumping £148 into it only for it to pay 5 Jackpots in five consecutive credits. £2.50 stake/£175 streak.
Anyone else seen this red-boxes-after-top-feature phenomenon?
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Played one of these after golf today, 20 in for a money magic i thought flat 35 but no 36 then it span in 2 lines of grapes machine froze for about five seconds it did not add it to the bank and then said thats your lot , lol wtf!!!
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