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Derren Brown : The System
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:07 pm
by Dunhamzzz
Did anybody watch this on TV tonight??
Very very clever stuff, whereas usually Im very "yeah yeah whatever" to the things he does, I was genuinely impressed with what actually happened and how complex it was!
I'll explain for those who didn't....
A survey of a large number are people are divided into 6 groups, they are each given a horse to bet on in a 6 horse race,
Out of those who lose, they refund all bets placed etc. But out of those who win, they are split up further more into another 6 groups, and each group ofppl are given another horse to be on in a 6 horse race...
Get it yet?
The winners of this rave are then split up furthermore... until he ends up with 6 people and 1 race. After this race, this women thinks there is a system which has allowed here to win about 6 times in a row!
This is where filming begins (initially with the person who actually won, but then it shows they did film all particular outcomes).
At this pointhe basically got this not-very-well-off women to borrow money from family and even get a loan, all in all amounting to £4k, he places the bet himself then as soon as he does it , tells her the whole system!
Her horse does actually lose this time, but in good spirit, he did apparently place the "winning" bet and she walked with £13k.
Interesting Stuff!
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:42 pm
by Martal~Wombat.
Yeah fascinating yet not a winning system that we all expected
at least he told us how he did it, just feel sorry
4 all the other hundreds of people that lost their money
and i bet he put 4k on every horse in the last race 2 cover himself
5 horse race X 4grand = 20 k to promote himself?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:29 am
by shadmun
Did u see the shit he done ages ago with the winning ticket lol claiming losing tickets
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:53 am
by mjd
biggest farcical load of shite ive ever seen.......And for those who think FOBTs are random, it took them an ENTIRE DAY to get 10 50/50s landing in a row..... Fobts it takes about...........well erm, But Fobts hit 36-1s shitload of times in a row, all randomly!! WOW!
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:37 am
by itsme
I thought it was interseting and really clever but.....pretty useless unless you have several thousand mate's to try and do it with.
I'll just stick to my lucky 15's.
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:10 am
by ma71lda
Can't beat the good old Lucky 15, great value bet.
On Thursday, I had 3 winners ( 6/4, 4/1 and 3/1) and a 2nd (3/1), it was only a 20p stake but the return pays for this weekends footy bets.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:14 pm
by stuart4010
A lucky 15 is not a value bet, it's a bet for pensioners to throw away £1.50 each day, when they could've spent it down at their local on another whisky.
The only 'value' bet is the Single.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:08 pm
by itsme
A lucky 15 is not a value bet, it's a bet for pensioners to throw away £1.50 each day, when they could've spent it down at their local on another whisky.
The only 'value' bet is the Single.
Why not then ???????????
I sometime's have a 5 quid win lucky 15, 75quid.
I've had a few bet's with 3 winner's on and trust me, they are of value when you collect a few hundred quid.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:50 pm
by stuart4010
It's a mugs bet - I'm fairly certain you won't find many professional gamblers writing out a Lucky 15 in the magic sign every week.
If you're racing, and you're serious about it, it's a single every time.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:48 pm
by ob
stuart4010 wrote:It's a mugs bet - I'm fairly certain you won't find many professional gamblers writing out a Lucky 15 in the magic sign every week.
If you're racing, and you're serious about it, it's a single every time.
you are right, but for the odd quid I can see the appeal, basically its a real long shot punt at less than optimal odds, but its a laugh... (btw I dont do it lol)
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:43 pm
by Scott
just watched this repeated on E4 last nite, i understand the pyramid bit, but the thing were they all chose a random photo and they all had the same initials as the person who chose them i could'nt get my head round, then when it had the odds of it happening [over 2billion too one] on the back of the photo i could not believe what i was seeing, did he explain how this was done??? did i miss that bit or what??
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:51 pm
by betchrider
you might just pick somebody with the same initials without thinking about it
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:15 pm
by shadmun
Iv seen him live its all about the subliminals
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:57 am
by INVINCIBLE
shadmun wrote:Did u see the shit he done ages ago with the winning ticket lol claiming losing tickets
yeah m8 was mad instant hypnosis, wish i could do that to some dizzy bird in the bookies...
this is the winning ticket... (straight out the bin) HAHAHA
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:09 am
by harry 3
itsme wrote:A lucky 15 is not a value bet, it's a bet for pensioners to throw away £1.50 each day, when they could've spent it down at their local on another whisky.
The only 'value' bet is the Single.
Why not then ???????????
I sometime's have a 5 quid win lucky 15, 75quid.
I've had a few bet's with 3 winner's on and trust me, they are of value when you collect a few hundred quid.
One loser and eight of the fifteen bets are down.