Derren Brown : The System

Dunhamzzz · Post by **Dunhamzzz** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:07 pm

Did anybody watch this on TV tonight??

Very very clever stuff, whereas usually Im very "yeah yeah whatever" to the things he does, I was genuinely impressed with what actually happened and how complex it was!

I'll explain for those who didn't....

A survey of a large number are people are divided into 6 groups, they are each given a horse to bet on in a 6 horse race,

Out of those who lose, they refund all bets placed etc. But out of those who win, they are split up further more into another 6 groups, and each group ofppl are given another horse to be on in a 6 horse race...

Get it yet?
The winners of this rave are then split up furthermore... until he ends up with 6 people and 1 race. After this race, this women thinks there is a system which has allowed here to win about 6 times in a row!

This is where filming begins (initially with the person who actually won, but then it shows they did film all particular outcomes).

At this pointhe basically got this not-very-well-off women to borrow money from family and even get a loan, all in all amounting to £4k, he places the bet himself then as soon as he does it , tells her the whole system!

Her horse does actually lose this time, but in good spirit, he did apparently place the "winning" bet and she walked with £13k.

Interesting Stuff!

Martal~Wombat. · Post by **Martal~Wombat.** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:42 pm

Yeah fascinating yet not a winning system that we all expected
at least he told us how he did it, just feel sorry
4 all the other hundreds of people that lost their money
and i bet he put 4k on every horse in the last race 2 cover himself
5 horse race X 4grand = 20 k to promote himself?

shadmun · Post by **shadmun** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:29 am

Did u see the shit he done ages ago with the winning ticket lol claiming losing tickets

mjd · Post by **mjd** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:53 am

biggest farcical load of shite ive ever seen.......And for those who think FOBTs are random, it took them an ENTIRE DAY to get 10 50/50s landing in a row..... Fobts it takes about...........well erm, But Fobts hit 36-1s shitload of times in a row, all randomly!! WOW!

itsme · Post by **itsme** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:37 am

I thought it was interseting and really clever but.....pretty useless unless you have several thousand mate's to try and do it with.

I'll just stick to my lucky 15's.

ma71lda · Post by **ma71lda** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:10 am

Can't beat the good old Lucky 15, great value bet.

On Thursday, I had 3 winners ( 6/4, 4/1 and 3/1) and a 2nd (3/1), it was only a 20p stake but the return pays for this weekends footy bets.

stuart4010 · Post by **stuart4010** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:14 pm

A lucky 15 is not a value bet, it's a bet for pensioners to throw away £1.50 each day, when they could've spent it down at their local on another whisky.

The only 'value' bet is the Single.

itsme · Post by **itsme** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:08 pm

A lucky 15 is not a value bet, it's a bet for pensioners to throw away £1.50 each day, when they could've spent it down at their local on another whisky.

The only 'value' bet is the Single.

Why not then ???????????

I sometime's have a 5 quid win lucky 15, 75quid.

I've had a few bet's with 3 winner's on and trust me, they are of value when you collect a few hundred quid.

stuart4010 · Post by **stuart4010** » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:50 pm

It's a mugs bet - I'm fairly certain you won't find many professional gamblers writing out a Lucky 15 in the magic sign every week.

If you're racing, and you're serious about it, it's a single every time.

ob · Post by ob » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:48 pm

stuart4010 wrote:It's a mugs bet - I'm fairly certain you won't find many professional gamblers writing out a Lucky 15 in the magic sign every week.

If you're racing, and you're serious about it, it's a single every time.

you are right, but for the odd quid I can see the appeal, basically its a real long shot punt at less than optimal odds, but its a laugh... (btw I dont do it lol)

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:43 pm

just watched this repeated on E4 last nite, i understand the pyramid bit, but the thing were they all chose a random photo and they all had the same initials as the person who chose them i could'nt get my head round, then when it had the odds of it happening [over 2billion too one] on the back of the photo i could not believe what i was seeing, did he explain how this was done??? did i miss that bit or what??

betchrider · Post by **betchrider** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:51 pm

you might just pick somebody with the same initials without thinking about it

shadmun · Post by **shadmun** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:15 pm

Iv seen him live its all about the subliminals

INVINCIBLE · Post by **INVINCIBLE** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:57 am

shadmun wrote:Did u see the shit he done ages ago with the winning ticket lol claiming losing tickets

yeah m8 was mad instant hypnosis, wish i could do that to some dizzy bird in the bookies...

this is the winning ticket... (straight out the bin) HAHAHA

harry 3 · Post by **harry 3** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:09 am

itsme wrote:
A lucky 15 is not a value bet, it's a bet for pensioners to throw away £1.50 each day, when they could've spent it down at their local on another whisky.

The only 'value' bet is the Single.
Why not then ???????????

I sometime's have a 5 quid win lucky 15, 75quid.

I've had a few bet's with 3 winner's on and trust me, they are of value when you collect a few hundred quid.

One loser and eight of the fifteen bets are down.