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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:28 pm
by Cardinal Sin
So how many bets of say, 1.05 - would it take to climb to £10,000.

My rudimentary calculations come out around 140...

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:49 pm
by spa
I think I may come away from betfair and move to betfred.

Simple reason is betfair take a commision from your win! That's a fucking disgrace! They also fee you1.5% for depositing via paypal.

2010-01-27
19:54 9961470085 2010-01-26
21:53 Fixtures 27 January Chelsea v Birmingham / Birmingham Clean Sheet?
Comm Charged 5.19% On Net winnings of GBP1.35 - - - (0.07) 16.32
2010-01-27
19:54 9961470085 2010-01-26
21:53 Fixtures 27 January Chelsea v Birmingham / Birmingham Clean Sheet? / No
Back 1.09 15.04 Won 1.35 16.39
2010-01-26
20:53 9950222885 2010-01-24
22:14 Fixtures 26 January Tottenham v Fulham / Fulham Clean Sheet?
Comm Charged 4.78% On Net winnings of GBP2.09 - - - (0.10) 15.04
2010-01-26
20:53 9950222885 2010-01-24
22:14 Fixtures 26 January Tottenham v Fulham / Fulham Clean Sheet? / No
Back 1.16 13.05 Won 2.09 15.14
2010-01-24
21:50 9948245722 2010-01-24
17:53 Fixtures 24 January Real Madrid v Malaga / Match Odds
Comm Charged 5.24% On Net winnings of GBP2.1 - - - (0.11) 13.05
2010-01-24
21:50 9948245722 2010-01-24
17:53 Fixtures 24 January Real Madrid v Malaga / Match Odds / Real Madrid
Back 1.19 11.06 Won 2.10 13.16
2010-01-24
17:36 9940269188 2010-01-23
21:16 Fixtures 24 January St Johnstone v Celtic / Hat-trick Scored?
Comm Charged 6.25% On Net winnings of GBP0.32 - - - (0.02) 11.06
2010-01-24
17:36 9940269188 2010-01-23
21:16 Fixtures 24 January St Johnstone v Celtic / Hat-trick Scored? / No
Back 1.03 10.76 Won 0.32 11.08
2010-01-23
19:12 9937995051 2010-01-23
17:01 Fixtures 23 January Tottenham v Leeds / Hat-trick Scored?
Comm Charged 5% On Net winnings of GBP0.8 - - - (0.04) 10.76
2010-01-23
19:12 9937995051 2010-01-23
17:01 Fixtures 23 January Tottenham v Leeds / Hat-trick Scored? / No
Back 1.08 10.00 Won 0.80 10.80
2010-01-23
16:58 192709991363874 2010-01-23
16:58 PayPal Fee - - - (0.15) 10.00
2010-01-23
16:58 192709991363874 2010-01-23
16:58 PayPal Deposit - - - 10.15 10.15

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:03 pm
by keno
Betfred don't cover the bets your wanting to do though.

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:07 pm
by spa
Sod it, gonna tilt it. I'll move on after that.

£6.32 on Man City to win at half time (about £30 back) and £10 on Cardiff this weekend £7.50 back). :)

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:08 pm
by spa
keno wrote:Betfred don't cover the bets your wanting to do though.
I know, but then the odds on hattricks are so low I have been betting on othe things :)

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:30 pm
by spa
there goes the man city bet lol

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:28 pm
by bigv038
£13.71 for me now, any ideas for tommorrow? I was hoping to catch no hat-tricks for Ghana at 4 and then another in the evening but the Ghana match is 1.01 :(

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:07 am
by Barry Trotter
lol @ spa... tilt mode already? This is a long term bet chap.... I'm sticking to my guns. Had a few over the last few days. Up to about £15 now. At shows in London so no bets today unless the wife puts them on... will let you know what I have. Well done those that are sticking to hat-tricks. It'll start getting interesng after about forty games or so. :)

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:52 pm
by spa
It's the commision that's keeping me away. Ok, it's only 7p on a £1.35 win but what when you win like £800 on your last bet? Do you really want to give up like £90, just for winning? I would say over the tern of £10-£10,000 you would give about a grand in commision.

No thanks.

If Cardiff win i'll lump that one another win and so on, cause i'm nuts :)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:58 am
by joe3_3
You dont really seem to get what betfair is about, I think its best you did go to betfreds.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:50 am
by harry2
spa wrote:It's the commision that's keeping me away. Ok, it's only 7p on a £1.35 win but what when you win like £800 on your last bet? Do you really want to give up like £90, just for winning? I would say over the tern of £10-£10,000 you would give about a grand in commision.

No thanks.

If Cardiff win i'll lump that one another win and so on, cause i'm nuts :)



Bookies football games are 111% , whilst Betfair are around 101 % or about 103% after commission. No contest.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:21 pm
by spa
joe3_3 wrote:You dont really seem to get what betfair is about, I think its best you did go to betfreds.

****

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:21 pm
by spa
harry2 wrote:
spa wrote:It's the commision that's keeping me away. Ok, it's only 7p on a £1.35 win but what when you win like £800 on your last bet? Do you really want to give up like £90, just for winning? I would say over the tern of £10-£10,000 you would give about a grand in commision.

No thanks.

If Cardiff win i'll lump that one another win and so on, cause i'm nuts :)



Bookies football games are 111% , whilst Betfair are around 101 % or 103% after commission. No contest.
Thanks for a non twatish reply.

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:36 pm
by Barry Trotter
As you tend to get better prices on BetFair, even with the commission it is nearly always worth betting on BetFair. Not all the time, granted.

Birmingham vs Tottenham tomorrow. 1.02. Not the best price, but the others were 1.01 except Liverpool...

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:07 pm
by harry2
Premier League Examples tomorrow

This takes into consideration commission on Betfair at the highest level of 5%. Some sites offer lower rates but less liquidity ie Betdaq.
Betfair Ladbrokes Difference
Aston Villa 2.73 13/8 (2.63) + 3.8%
Fulham 2.77 13/8 (2.63) + 5.3%
Draw 3.23 23/10 (3.30) - 2.2%


Burnley 14.3 9/1 (10) +43%
Chelsea 1.29 3/10 (1.3) - 0. 7%
Draw 5.47 9/2 (5.5) -0.5%


Birmingham 3.14 9/4 (3.25) -3.4%
Tottenham 2.37 11/8 (2.37) 0
Draw 3.28 9/4 (3.25) + 0.9%




Other sports

Australian Open

Federer 1.62 8/13 (1.61) + 0.6%
Murray 2.43 6/5 (2.2) + 10.5%

Darts


Taylor 1.36 1/3 (1.33) +2.2%
Wade 17.2 10/1 (11) + 56.4%
Lewis 17.1 14/1 (15) + 14%
Anderson 26.6 14/1 (15) + 77.3%
Jenkins 50.4 40/1 (41) + 22.9%
Stompe 113.1 50/1 (51) + 117.6%
Hamilton 67.4 50/1 (51) +32.1%




Or if you like your accumulators

Villa/Chelsea/Liverpool 5.23 4.88 + 7.2%