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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:35 am
by Layla68
cool wrote:yesterday in a pub for an hour and a half and won nothing! Machine was situated next to the bar so had the barmaid peering at me. She was joined by two thai women with a baby who stood about six inches behind me shouting 'jackpot' in unison everytime I got close to it, that disconcerted me so much so that I couldnt get it. I went to the loo, when I got back they jumped on the bloody thing. Such is life :(
...aaaaah....performance anxiety! :shock: :o ops:


I haven't played for years and years (ummmm 14 in fact, since emigrating) and I used to get the "you must do this for a living" line constantly. It was always in a kind of condescending jokey tone, not too many women playing that intensively back then....(probably not now either?)
I never came up with any witty retorts, just smiled and had a quiet chuckle to myself....the last laugh was on me because I was in fact doing it for a living! Fun times!!

Will be back next year (in the UK), probably won't play though, I'm just here for the nostalgia :D

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:36 am
by Cardinal Sin
I was postulating only this evening on whether there were any "professional" female fruit machine or quiz machine players. Kudos to you.

Back in Ireland when I was clearing up on AWP's - their machines are much further behind the times, and sadly quiz machines are as rare as 5-leaf clovers - I happened upon a rather shady establishment which boasted an Aladdin's Cave of easy pickings (unchipped Hilowatha, Flintstones and Red Arrow for any puggie historians). A discarded Bud and about 200 profit later, I had so many pound coins I had to waddle out the place. Whereupon the barman beckoned me over and said something along the lines of:

"You didn't come in here for a drink. You just came here to empty the machines".

Perhaps in a different pub or if I'd actually drunk that beer, I might have come out with something rather wittier than "yes, I do". However, I was ever so slightly shiting my breeks.

I need not have worried. The barman instantly mellowed and literally begged me for tips on how to not lose his wages in the machines every week.

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:41 am
by quizard
Cardinal Richelieu wrote:I was postulating only this evening on whether there were any "professional" female fruit machine or quiz machine players. Kudos to you.
I think there has hardly been any serious female SWP players. The only one I ever ran across back in the 1990s was a girl called Louise who I think was from Birmingham. She used to play some of the same machines as I did. She was a very attractive girl and used to drag some bloke around with her who I assumed was there just to make the situation look more normal and deflect the attention of other males. Which I suppose is the main problem any female player has got.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:44 am
by Layla68
CR, thanks for your post :D I wonder if there are more women willing to come out of the woodwork? I remember one or two very good players but I didn't see them around often enough to think they were in it for a living.

quizard, I never attracted much male attention myself - too common garden variety I suspect :wink:
I did however take my boyfriend with me when I could - which wasn't all that often because he worked full time and had an hour's commute each day to boot.

After a year building up to "serious" playing I started playing Quiz machines fairly intensively from 1988 - mainly central London pubs but also had a couple of runs further out.
I didn't really network with other players but I remember a few guys who played back then.....one once said I was lucky as I seemed to go "under the radar" better than they did. I might have just been immune to any stares and speculation? I don't know. In five years playing (1987 - 1994 less 2 years spent in America) I only had two mildly unpleasant incidents - one was a nasty barmaid who it later transpired was involved with a guy who liked to win on the machines!
For anyone who might recall me (???) I'm American, with short dark hair. I feel almost embarrassed admitting this but I did wear a longer wig and glasses on occasion. I was literally embarrassed by my "riches" at one stage there and I got to feel quite conspicuous - though like I said the only attention I was aware of attracting was mild amusement.

After my Mother-In-Law-to-be referred to my winnings as my "ill gotten gains" once in the very early days (pffffft - I mean REALLY, you'd think I'd been out pick pocketing tourists, or worse) I kept quiet about exactly how I was spending my days. She thought I was a receptionist in a hotel. :o ops:
I logged all my winnings in four exercise books which I've kept as a reminder. We came across them recently and it's sent me on a real nostalgia trip! For years after I stopped playing (left the UK so my husband could pursue his career) if I ever caught the smell of beer and cigarettes in one hit I'd automatically "hear" coins landing in a tray!
I had dreams about Adders and Ladders amongst other old gems, on and off for years too! Not so much lately.

My partner, now husband, was working as a prop maker for the BBC then. He and a friend made this hilarious thing they called the "alter bladder". You'll see where this is going - It ran off 2 AA batteries and suctioned liquids through a straw like pipe into a kind of sectioned strong plastic bag which had a small tap on the bottom "for emptying at the user's convenience". I'm almost peeing myself laughing now remembering how much fun we had taking it for a trial run and the terrible noise it made suctioning a drink from a glass.
Needless to say it only got the one pub outing.
My husband has been known to bring it out at parties since then. :o ops:

I received most of my education in the USA and my general knowledge wasn't very "global". Initially I worked bloody hard studying trivia and facts to get good returns! Those of you who were around back them will know what I mean when I say the money was very good.
We invested my earnings in a (small) property just before we left the UK. From September next year we're going to live there.

On a trip back to Blighty in 2005 I did venture out for a dabble on the machines but I was rubbish! :o ops: I won't be making a return. If it were the MIL who used to disapprove I think these days it might likely be my daughters! (Though they wouldn't say no to some extra cash to spend I'm betting!)

Recently at a dinner party my husband brought out my log books which we'd uncovered while sorting out the garage. People were incredulous 1/ that I'd ever spent all that time in pubs - I'm not a drinker or pub-goer in general, and 2/ that there was so much tax free income just waiting there for collection! :wink:

Sorry for the big ramble! This is a part of my life that seems so far removed from where I'm at now and it's been such a blast reading some of the nostalic posts from some of the veteran pros!

Happy quizzing ALL! Have fun, and prosper! :D

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:23 am
by QuizMaster
Adders & Ladders. That was a classic machine. Had the skill stop for the shrapnel when it was raving.

Top post.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:27 am
by cp999
A friend of mine (pro from about 1993-97) phoned me up one night many years ago to tell me that he had gone for his regular "free" Chinese in a local takeaway - only to find a girl doing the Barquest therein. He was rather impressed. :)

(Talking of Barquests, another ex-pro acquaintance of mine used to sit and do crosswords whilst emptying them.)

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:36 am
by cp999
QuizMaster wrote: Adders & Ladders. That was a classic machine.
Yeah. Many fond memories of that machine.

"Vaduz is the capital of?" "Hang on, is Guyana there? If so, Luxemburg" ;)

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:32 am
by cool
I met you in a pub just off the m3 nr Farnborough-Crown & Cushion in the barn--the machine you enjoyed playing was Inquizitor. You worked for a printers in London and had been featured on TVS for being banned from a pub.Remember me???

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:36 am
by Northern Monkey
Do you stick by your original description Cool??

http://www.fruitchat.co.uk/viewtopic.ph ... t=american

:wink: :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:01 am
by QuizMaster
cp999 wrote:A friend of mine (pro from about 1993-97) phoned me up one night many years ago to tell me that he had gone for his regular "free" Chinese in a local takeaway - only to find a girl doing the Barquest therein. He was rather impressed. :)

(Talking of Barquests, another ex-pro acquaintance of mine used to sit and do crosswords whilst emptying them.)
Was the Barquest/crossword man Jack from Derby? He was a great Barquest player.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:39 pm
by cool
Thanks for that Mr Monkey!

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:47 pm
by cp999
QuizMaster wrote:
cp999 wrote:A friend of mine (pro from about 1993-97) phoned me up one night many years ago to tell me that he had gone for his regular "free" Chinese in a local takeaway - only to find a girl doing the Barquest therein. He was rather impressed. :)

(Talking of Barquests, another ex-pro acquaintance of mine used to sit and do crosswords whilst emptying them.)
Was the Barquest/crossword man Jack from Derby? He was a great Barquest player.
No, he was from Edinburgh. Travelled widely, though. Excellent on Turnover also, from what I heard.

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:21 am
by Layla68
cool wrote:I met you in a pub just off the m3 nr Farnborough-Crown & Cushion in the barn--the machine you enjoyed playing was Inquizitor. You worked for a printers in London and had been featured on TVS for being banned from a pub.Remember me???
Awesome memory - guess that's a good part of the reason you're good at the game. But, that particular American wasn't me I'm afraid! I was never banned - not even close. Just one run in with a barmaid, and one with another player (whose irritation was more fueled by drink than by anything I was doing I think.)
Another American girl playing?? I'm surprised I didn't run into her myself or at least hear of her. Not that I networked really. I wonder if this was during 1992 - mid 93 when I was back in the states for a while? I DO remember Quizator though!! Woohoo :lol:

The players (not sure if they were "pro's" but they seemed to be around a lot) who once commented that I went under the radar thought it had something to do with my ordering non alcoholic drinks without any raised eyebrows. I'm quite slight and always had a low tolerance for any alcohol. I don't think I would have been able to do the job if I'd been required to drink much!

I was trying to think last night if I had any regrets about my years spent playing the machines and I really don't think I do. I haven't had to write up a CV so far so that might trip me up yet. I didn't finish university until years and years later - after initially taking a gap year that turned into six before I knew what had happened! The strife from the Mother In Law was stressful at the time, but only because I was at that trying-to-impress stage...and yeah, that quickly wore off! Plus, as far as she knew I had an OK job in a hotel. Reminds me, once she met me in the foyer of said hotel to take me to lunch somewhere swanky nearby. Time came to pay and she'd misplaced her wallet. I offered to pay of course then realised I only had a large stash of pound coins and I nearly brought up my lunch with the stress of it all. Thankfully she took herself to the ladies at the right moment and I suffered relatively minor embarrassment paying the bill.

I mentioned just two negative experiences but I was actually mugged once, in Hammersmith.
I had a distant fear that maybe the b*stards had watched me collect then followed me, but I preferred to believe it was random. the police thought it was. They got 122 pounds which I had (stupidly) in a backpack. I got a sprained wrist and stayed off the machines for a week - which was difficult. I kept all my winnings in my clothes after that. Props man came to the rescue with some ingenious and extra reinforced pockets.

Cool - were you playing in London late 80's - 91? If so I'll bet you did see me somewhere you know. I remember a guy Tom (I think? Wish my memory was as good as yours!) who spoke to me once, he worked in partnership with someone (big guy, tall - John? Martin?), and a Scottish guy Chris....I've wondered from time to time how he got on. He was friendly and actually we did share some tips. He was buying property like me.
When I did my final push before leaving for good in 1994 I needed to travel further afield to make the same kind of money and it wasn't as much fun, though I had a definite goal then to buy a place freehold and I stuck it out doing really long hours and not too many days off.

It was really bloody hard work in some ways, and I suspect may be harder now days? Respect to any of you still making a go of it.
Those others who work on your own. Hope you have good support at home. I did and I think without that it would have been impossible! I also had two friends who did banking for me. My other half always acted like my work was at least as interesting as his. I walked between pubs or took the tube and generally really enjoyed my days though they were socially a bit bereft which is ironic since I spent them largely in pubs! In hindsight the thing that was missing was that I didn't have another player or group of players to compare with, strategize with and reminisce with. That's what's drawing me back here to read others' memories now!
When I read the posts here about Stereotypes I crack up - I saw those guys all the time! Hell I believe I even had a drink with one once.

Cheers for the memories!
Melissa.

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:18 pm
by grecian
Melissa, have you been playing in London recently (i.e. within the last fortnight?) I ask as I played a noticeably hard-as-nails Ind:e in the King's Cross area at the weekend and someone called LAYLA had taken the two top spots on Monopoly.

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:37 am
by Layla68
grecian wrote:Melissa, have you been playing in London recently (i.e. within the last fortnight?) I ask as I played a noticeably hard-as-nails Ind:e in the King's Cross area at the weekend and someone called LAYLA had taken the two top spots on Monopoly.
Not me grecian - hell another coincidence!! Kings Cross was one of my old stamping grounds too...
I wonder if someone's sending me a mesage? 8)

I won't be back to the UK until late next year.

I did have a dabble a few years back but haven't played the machines since. I seriously doubt I'd have what it takes now :?

Hey...you're in London, do you remember... *edited for privacy reasons!*
...Top guys, I'd love to know where they're at now.

Melissa.