Deal Or No Deal

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Heh - I agree MattB! I think the best target I had was 12500, which I got pretty easily. Majority of the time though you get the big targets that are pretty much unattainable... :(

This has taken over from Bully as being the game I look out for, although I'll still have a few shots on that for the usually 'safe' £3! ;)

Has anyone ever 'No Dealed' through an entire round and ended up with anything substatial in their starting box? I know it's all fiddled underneath the bonnet and it'll give you what it wants regardless of which box you pick, but hey, someone may have got lucky! ;)

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Tried it once but I've never seen a Deal above 24,500 in the first round.
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hang on in there echoes.
it does pay the jackpot.honest.
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Hi foxy

I've had plenty of £10s on this but never as yet won the Jackpot on either the £20 or £40 version. Given that it should be a 1 in 16 chance, and I've got to the end game probably 100 or more times and that I rarely if ever take the intermediate Deals, I should have expected to win a few JPs by now. While I don't want to open up the Fixed or No Fixed can of worms :wink: , one question I did have is whether you use any 'method'. Lately I've tried to always choose the same box as the first one. If I stick to this then I reckon I should eventually get a JP by sheer probability, unless the game is indeed fixed...
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The £20 can be won but it will only happen when the game is raving full of cash. You've got to be seeing the starting points around the 12-15000 mark for qualification. If you see this, have a go at the £20/£40. If not, accept the fact that the most you can win is a £10. This explains why you aren't seeing it on a 1 in 16 frequency.
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I think that this is the pretty conclusive proof that the end game is, as most of us suspected, rigged. A conservative estimate of the number of times I've made the end game since this one first appeared would be 150 and the chances of not selecting the £20 or £40 that many times in a row is 15/16 to the power of 150, which if my maths is correct is a 16,000 to 1 chance, i.e. it's about as likely that DOND is not rigged as it is that Sheff Utd and Watford will finish first and second this season...
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agreed. i can't remember exactly how this one works as i find it dull.

but i dare say beardo is happy to show you £20 in your box if you accept a dond for, say, £3.50.

does it show your box after a deal? or only if you play through to the end? sorry for the n00b Q :o ops:
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If the game is "fair" the average amount you should receive by playing the board out to the end every time is £3.85.

But after you have been f**ked off for 50p or less five games in a row on a few occasions it is difficult to believe it isn't fixed.
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unknownpseudonym wrote:does it show your box after a deal? or only if you play through to the end?
I don't think it does show you your box after you accept a deal, only at the end (including those times when you are offered a swap). However now I have played this one enough times I think this is a red herring anyway - I don't believe that the prize under your chosen box is set when you choose the box, otherwise I would surely have picked up a few Jackpots by now (as I explain above).

If you are lucky enough to get the Jackpot then this is because the game has chosen to given it you, rather than you getting lucky on a 1 in 16 chance. In that respect it reminds me a lot of old Cluedo, when the game would decide to give you the Murder Room when it wanted to pay out, as opposed to there being any real skill involved in eliminating the wrong ones.
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I was playing DOND with my mate down our local last week, got to the cash boxes twice first time came down to 10p or £20, got the 10p, second time got down to 30p or £20 and you've guessed it, 30p. Am i just unlucky or what ?
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Phil wrote:I was playing DOND with my mate down our local last week, got to the cash boxes twice first time came down to 10p or £20, got the 10p, second time got down to 30p or £20 and you've guessed it, 30p. Am i just unlucky or what ?
After playing it almost exclusively for a while, I was under the impression that DOND would always give you the lower of the two boxes left. This was until the last time I played it, when two cash games gave the higher box each time (£10 and <£1, and £4 and something lower). So it can happen but it is incredibly rare!
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The Jackpot (either £20 or £40) is incredibly rare - I have still never won one in 200+ end games. The £10 on the other hand can be achieved, although it's much more likely on the £40 variety, where presumably the doubled intake allows for higher payouts.
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I see this has made it's way onto the Paragon now (may be old news!). Had a great result on it twice last night however.

First go, target of 48000, hmm, not impossible, but not what I was after. Got to about 30000 by 'Dealing' and then bombed out on some spoiler about which year did someone I'd never heard of do something I'd never know about.

Next go, target of 16000, 'ah, that's more like it!' Got to the cash game and ended up with 70p and the £10. Chose to swap the box and got the £10!

Another pub, another machine (sheetbox variety - amazed at how crap the resolution is compared with the Para!) Anyway, target of 21000, nailed it and got down to having the £10 and the £20 left, the deal was for £14 so took it and walked...!

A good game, but as mentioned elsewhere, there is indeed a spoiler set which kick in if the programme thinks you're getting too near to the cash game... :(

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Me and my mate played the £1/£40 variant in town the other week. Got set a target of £41,000. We got to that and onto the money round.

Got down to the 40p or £20. We gambled and got the £20, was well chuffed, only won £10 off it since (and a few £3's)

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Happend to me n my mate n all, weve taken the £20 jp on the 50p game three times now, and won £20 on the £1 game last week.
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