Fobt = Best and Worst Bookies to play in?

Dave FOBT King · Post by **Dave FOBT King** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:40 pm

Dont say oh theres all shit please because i know alot of people only go to certain bookmakers to gamble on the fobt?

griff50 · Post by **griff50** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:38 am

same number is generated whichever bookies you are in so doesnt matter. Just depends what visual you like

Dave FOBT King · Post by **Dave FOBT King** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:08 am

Terrible reply but thanks anyway

Istenem · Post by **Istenem** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:22 am

come to Honest Istenem, he'll give you good odds, a sugary drink and two flaccid biscuits in a polythene wrapper (best before last week).

joker53 · Post by **joker53** » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:42 pm

William Hills used to be the best but tbh they are all shit now. The only thing I put it down to is that the numbers playing them has dropped since their introduction. I always say if you're winning them some poor bastard is losing big in another shop.

i dont play any of them now as they became a joke and I had 10 visits of losing everytime. Before this I would say that the Tote was the worst and avoided it like the plague.

Dave FOBT King · Post by **Dave FOBT King** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:24 am

^^ great reply - yeh i use to think wh was good but its got pretty shit

agree with you on tote - utter shit

barafear799 · Post by **barafear799** » Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:37 pm

I'm in agreement too - but how did they go from "pretty good" to "shit"

Numbers playing them has fallen - but annual reports show income to bookies has increased!!

Dave FOBT King · Post by **Dave FOBT King** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:20 am

They are paying out less due to william hill very poor online sales/profits for the last few years (read an online report somewhere a few weeks back)

so wh is now recouping the loss by using more machines and paying out less on those machines !!!!!

PMK · Post by **PMK** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:46 am

They're fucking random!!

No %age payout, no switch behind the counter, doesn't matter if somebody else is winning it doesnt affect you!!

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!

barafear799 · Post by **barafear799** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:47 pm

no %age payout?

But if you press the "help" button on the machines, it states that there is a % payout.

The "arguement" is whether or not the stated % (approx 97) is actually what the punter is getting.

Matt Vinyl · Post by **Matt Vinyl** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:31 pm

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Dave FOBT King · Post by **Dave FOBT King** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:37 pm

Are you Serious PMK you really truly think its a random 2.7% house edge game ?? come on dont be daft mate.

iv already stated that they lost money on the online betting and got this back on the machines ! FACT ! search it for yourself william hill released the facts!

joker53 · Post by **joker53** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:23 pm

There is nooo way these things are random! The only time you seem to win these days is if you bet very small stakes and look to make £20. There must be programming rules built into each machine to decide upon the number matching its desired payout.

Give me real casino roulette any day of the week. I just wish people would get the message about these horrid machines and stopped playing them. Doubt it will happen unless there is some radical changes to the gambling act by the tories. Then again, dont the Government receive over 30% of the profits made by bookmakers - no chance they will put steps in place to reduce their income.

Dave FOBT King · Post by **Dave FOBT King** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:21 pm

There is nooo way these things are random! The only time you seem to win these days is if you bet very small stakes and look to make £20. There must be programming rules built into each machine to decide upon the number matching its desired payout.

Give me real casino roulette any day of the week. I just wish people would get the message about these horrid machines and stopped playing them. Doubt it will happen unless there is some radical changes to the gambling act by the tories. Then again, dont the Government receive over 30% of the profits made by bookmakers - no chance they will put steps in place to reduce their income.

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100 % AGREE

JG · Post by JG » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:39 pm

FAO: The proliferation of people on this thread and on this board in general who are complaining that these are rigged.

May I direct you to my FOBT roulette is rigged (again) thread on the bookmakers forum? I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next mikej82; well maybe not that much, but it's a good read and should help to stop us covering well worn ground. To summarise, it was looking good for the 'it's rigged' brigade until someone posted a summary of Ladbroke's FOBT takings for a financial year. The stats added up to imply that roulette would be giving a true house edge to the bookies. Perhpas this is all just cleverly manufactured propoganda to pull the wool over our eyes? Have a ganders and see what you think.

The ultimate word has to be hold, card, no wait, cold, hard common sense. Boring? Yes. Arguable? No.

"If you think they are rigged, then why play them?"

Hey, even if they're not rigged, you're still onto a loser in the long run.

You are only buying entertainment.